Hi Linda, It's a shame there are so many left-wing loons living in CA. They ruin it for level headed folk like you. I don't know how much good it would do, but you can always write your congressman about the lunacy - but then again you got people like Nancy Pelosi!!! now Speaker of the House and she's from CA. How she ever got to where she is is beyond me! I like the idea of a Garden Junk Commission. We would be the most anti-PC people ever hired! LOL Insisting that there be no limit as to artsitic expression, ect; freedom would RULE! And I could use an extra 115K a year! How do I sign up? LOL In Melbourne the dams are something like 30% lower than they were in 2000 and we have tight water restrictions placed on us. The greenwashed loons have lobbied hard against new dams being built and the state has agreed! Yet the population has risen by almost the same percentage and we're expecting a further population growth. How the state govt expect to 'water' all these people has yet to be seen. They're so busy 'thinking ahead' combating 'man-made' climate change they're missing the point. There won't be any water left down here and the poor future kiddies will be dead from lack of water long before CO2 will kill them. So I understand about the greenwashed getting their way when it comes to progress. The greenwashed just don't want anyone living comfortably - except for themselves. Luna, what a great idea. Rid CA of the illegals and then see how much that state could save on EVERYTHING! Cait

When i saw the title of your post, Debi, I just knew it was about this desperate woman. She & her husband are such publicity hounds, it seems that they will do anything to be in the public's eye. Pittiful!!

Houzz has once again shown us who they are. It's time we believed them. This nonsense can only be for the purpose of creating a flurry of activity to boost their IPO of an essentially valueless company. This place was great. A lot of folks helped me, and I'd like to think I helped a few folks here and there; but I patently refuse to function as unpaid customer service for this fiasco that is Houzz. If you all are smart, you will remove any identifiable information from this website - they have proven untrustworthy.

Funny to be accused of evangelism by poster that incited an "Amen", a few posts up :) Always appreciate feedback and constantly working on preachiness of writing style. I think including links or reading opines without sourcing helps others decide on misleading comments. It looks like Stiebel updated their Accelera HPWH to include an electronic control screen since we bought one a couple years ago for parents house. After an updated check on reviews I still feel safer with Accelera but it's hard without knowing volume of units sold. Surely Rheem has sold more HPWH than Stiebel at this point, despite Accelera being around longer. Reliability is a compelling reason to go with Rheem Marathon an electric resistance tank. Best warranty and most well-reviewed water heater available. Tank size plays a role here too. Bigger tank means better hot water performance, with minor hit in efficiency. The bigger the tank, the better for grid storage and demand control. Demand control has been around a long time with the most basic strategy using a timer and time-of-use billing options through utility. Studies will continue forever on more advanced grid-smart water heating technology but at this point, it's a time-tested technique with this smart water heater article quoting up to one million in use already with potential savings for homeowners and grid. Another article from same site points to irony of battle between grid storage potential of simple electric resistance tanks and the efficiency of heat pump water heaters. In that first article the Hidden Battery link seemed misdirected but it was put out by the NRDC pointing to potential of electric tanks to reduce the need of new power plants and grid storage for renewables. Large, reliable electric resistance tanks are becoming more of an asset while gas is becoming more of a liability. I think most of this forum's posts could be described as meaningless or feel-good-only but definitely not water heating. It has large environmental and social consequences. It's one of the only home purchases capable of beating the stock market for returns on investment. I think the ROI currently lies with HPWH but the second best choice could easily be a good ole electric tank. If an electric utility offers good incentives, electric tanks like the Marathon, could beat tankless gas or HPWH in total lifetime costs including repairs and replacement. A home equipped with PV panels and Marathon tank could also be in the running as best long-term water heating investment.