Agreed. Even if you didn't damage them beyond repair, they will probably be more susceptable to rotting than otherwise. Save yourself the time and plant fresh seed. As for spacing, what kind of peas are they? If they are bush peas, they are best broadcast because they enjoy crowded conditions (within reason).

Change out you siding with hardi board. Add a porch roof like the pic.posted that partically follows the roof line to camo. the fact that the roof is wider on one side. Starting at the new porch roof edge add a wide trim board that goes across to the other wall., where the main roof meets the side wall and use hardi shingles above in a different color than the body of the house. Consider nicer window upstairs. I cann,t see the total slope of your yard put it looks like you have enough slope to put in a rock retaining wall. Add a few semi large focal rocks above and some low growing evergreens and a nice stone walk way and multch . Add something like river rock and easy care plants down in front of the rock retaining wall and you probly have the nicest house on your block and it would all be easy upkeep if you use the right plants and multch.If your able to do it your self all that should be less than 3000. We did alot of the same stuff with ours this last year and consider it a learning exp. as well as sweat eguity.

Posted by SteelToad Z7 DE on Fri, Mar 14, 03 at 10:34 Well, my seedlings are doing very well, even after I got them a little leggy by having the light too high. I'm getting ready to move them into individual pots (cups) and I was wondering ... Is it a good idea, or a bad idea to plant them a little deeper so that the stem has more support and isn't as topheavy, or would that harm the plant ? Thanx all, as always Posted by: lil_Rhody z6b RI on Fri, Mar 14, 03 at 13:10I did that to all my seedlings when I transplanted them to styro cups and they are doing just fine. PaulB Posted by: john47 Maine z4/5 on Fri, Mar 14, 03 at 14:20 I transplant mine several times and plant them deeper each time just like tomatoes. john Posted by: NorthEast_ChileMan 6a MA on Fri, Mar 14, 03 at 18:59 Ray, Agree with above. I do not believe peppers grow roots from stems as 'maters do, but I've had no "ill effects" from transplanting pepper plants deeper to try to slow legginess before transplanting outdoors. Paul Posted by: John__ShowMe__USA 5 on Fri, Mar 14, 03 at 19:20 I plant mine deep too. Never have had a stem rot. JohnT Posted by: Byron 4a/5b NH on Fri, Mar 14, 03 at 19:52 I tried planting deeper for a couple years, The 3rd year I did a cmparison test, The one that were planted with the root ball just barely below the soil surface appeared to domuch better, Never saw any new roots above the orginal root ball. Just my observations Byron Posted by: peppermania Z9 Texas on Fri, Mar 14, 03 at 20:18 I agree with all of the above. I transplanted just about everybody last weekend. Some of those ganglely 'ol C baccatums that, no matter what, I couldn't get them close enough to the lights, got potted as much as 4", even at a near 90 angle. They are just as happy as can be. A good light potting medium with plenty of organic matter and that does not hold too much moisture is a must (at least in my mind). I have also had a PERFECT week for hardening off down here! YIPPEEE! Beth in Texas Posted by: NorthEast_ChileMan 6a MA on Fri, Mar 14, 03 at 21:00 Yea Beth, been watchin'.... Got another four inches of snow yesterday but temps to reach 50°F by Sunday.....yea.... Paul Posted by: peppermania Z9 Texas on Fri, Mar 14, 03 at 21:14 ChileMan: Johnny Cash "How high is that snow momma?" June Carter "Six feet deep and a rizin'!" Surely it has to end soon...... Beth - Barefooted in Texas Posted by: plants1010 z6 WA on Sat, Mar 15, 03 at 13:52 When I transplant plants deeper many of my peppers do sprout roots above the original root ball (sometimes they even sprout the root buds on the stem BEFORE I transplant, humidity related I think). I never thought it was unusual, so I never kept track, but I know for a fact I have a bell and a dundicut that did that recently. I dont think I ever had that happen with the more woody ones, like tepin. Posted by: John__ShowMe__USA 5 on Sat, Mar 15, 03 at 16:46 > (sometimes they even sprout the root buds on the stem BEFORE I transplant, humidity related I think). Happens all the time to my unplanted spare pepper plants that I keep in an old glass aquarium on my deck in case I need them for replacements. I posted a picture last year. JohnT Posted by: plants1010 z6 WA on Sat, Mar 15, 03 at 22:56 I acutually payed attention to root buds today and I was amazed. I was chopping back a 4.5' x 5' fatalii bush and was surprized I never noticed that root buds went up 2' from the soil! By the time I get it pruned back far enough to fit through the door it will have root buds near the top of the plant! The pot its in is about 8 gallons, I dont know if thats enough for a 4.5' x 5' bush (hence the early pruning) so it could be from being root bound. Humidity is probably still a factor. Now that I think about it, it usually happens when plants are root bound or loosing a fight for root space with another plant. Posted by: Juzen z7 Germany on Sun, Mar 16, 03 at 6:45 Controlled studies at Florida have shown that peppers and tomatoes should be planted deeper. Summary: Best seems to be planting to the first true leaves: "Extra-large fruit volume was increased at first harvest by deeper planting (Figure 2). Extra-large fruit volume was greatest for the deepest planting and was significantly less for the cotyledon and root ball plantings. The extra-large fruit response appeared to be a first harvest phenomenon as the other treatments "caught up" after four harvests. Sunny did not show the same response as Agriset and Colonial, implying different cultivars may respond differently to planting depth. This aspect is undergoing further examination." © and "Is deeper better? Yes! Preliminary statistical analysis reveals that planting to the cotyledon leaf offers the same benefit as planting to the first true leaf where total boxes at first harvest is concerned. However, in two of the five "successful" trials, a significantly greater yield of ex-large fruit at first harvest when planting to the first true leaf was shown." - excerpted from Southwest Florida Research & Education Center, UF/IFAS website Jürgen

shades, I have a dolly (no straps tho) but I still couldn't move things. could maybe stack a few smaller boxes on it. jed has some stretch bands? with hooks on the ends that he uses. I actually have 2 small ones like his. should buy longer ones. yes, I have different people say they'll come do stuff - but then something happens and they don't show up. I've been trying for over 3 wks to get new front tires. my mechanic said he'd get some for me and put on. then stuff happened at his shop (to do with wind storms here), after that his elderly mother needed help up in phx... I had a test scheduled and had to cxl it! he got here and took wheels off to have tires put on... then many days later on NYE day he made it here and put wheels on front. and left. about 2 hrs later I got in car to go to store and heard horrible noise when backing the car up. couldn't go anywhere. he finally made it back here on sat. Tires were wrong size. too big and were hitting the struts. He put those on the back and my back tires on the front so I could at least go to the store. he's coming back tomorrow to take car to the tire shop to have them changed and rotated back. good grief! that something so normally simple would be such a bear to get done. this has also had me stranded in my own house for days. I wanted to get out and pick up take out from local Mexican rest. - tired of my own 'cooking' - lol! (finally got my 'dinner' today!) Then Jed over watered my plants last sunday and ran me out of water - but I didn't know it... had to shut down the pump til more water could be delieved - on Wednesday! (that was today and I now have water again). just thinking of these things tires me... oh, and in between these things my son landed himself in the hospital in the Midwest with a blood infection. been in there 5 days, has something connected to him/in him by his heart. could have died / or lost his leg. will be able to go home (info from dd) but will need to return to hospital every day for 10 days to have more antibiotics put in whatever that 'thing' is attached to him. he says it's called cellulitis (what he has). I would have guessed that meant he had cellulite - he's way too thin and fit for that! And with my fibro I've been sleeping a ton again. and cold, damp weather outside here - that doesn't help. I hope anyone reading this survived...