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Dreams vs budget - what did you give up....

Kim
7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago

And do you regret it? The kitchen I love will, apparently, cost $100k or so. That's about $30k more than I'm willing to spend (which I thought was a crazy generous budget to begin with...). Obviously, I need to make some serious changes and they need to be big impact changes - some layout changes will help reduce cabinets, but I think I need to consider changes to countertop materials and cabinets to really be where I want to be, budget wise. Beaded inset cabinets with lots of drawers and quartzite countertops are, apparently, a small fortune. How did you decide what to compromise on in your kitchen remodel, and did you regret it????

Comments (48)

  • smm5525
    7 years ago

    We are compromising a zinc or metal hood, beaded inset cabinets, replacing existing window, and Fireclay backsplash tile. Layout wise, we aren't making much compromises, we are getting close to the layout we want by adding 2 Windows and expanding into the dining room.

    We are doing Quartz countertops. We are not making any sacrifices to the function of the cabinets though (drawers in base, appliance garage, pantry cabinet).

  • User
    7 years ago

    Have you searched high and low and know for sure you can't get what you want with 70k??? (or, how many quotes have you gotten?)

    If you have inspirational photos, then really study them and write down what it is that you love about those spaces. Then make another list, numbering your favorite must have items and start with those.. Don't compromise until you have put in the effort for searching for must have items. During your searches you may find similar items that cost less, but create the same vision and function just as well. Good luck!



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    Oh we are also looking for floor model and open box appliances to save money.

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    You should get a breakdown. I know for my cabinets how much I save by not doing beaded inset and not doing all plywood interior. I also know what tier my Quartz falls in, what tier my door style falls in and what I'm paying to move a wall back and add Windows. But my contractor is a design build so I can get approx costs of things directly from designer as we are discussing layout.

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  • Kim
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    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

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  • amyfgib
    7 years ago

    At some point, you just gotta stop the spending.


    I think I will make a sign that says this and hang it on my bathroom mirror!

    I gave up my ideal layout because it would have meant moving an exterior wall. Due to the lot lines, we could have gained, at most, a couple of feet. Those feet turn out to be very expensive! I also had to pass on the miele or wolf combi/steam oven because it is just too expensive. It is more important to us to get a built-in fridge and pick up a couple inches in the aisle.

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  • Nothing Left to Say
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  • lharpie
    7 years ago

    I chose the cheaper cab place available that were still fully custom sizing which saved us probably 5k (at least we wanted frameless shaker so not as bad as beaded inset!). I spent less on things I cared about less - sink and faucet were inexpensive, oven was one of the cheapest (okay still convection though), lower end fridge, etc. I spent appliance money on my Miele induction cooktop (and in doing a separate cooktop/wall oven - it just costs a lot more!). We have expensive accent tiles but paired them with a cheap HD tile. We found sales where we could. Basically we spent money on things that were most important to us and tried to save on things that we didn't care so much about. I would definitely prioritize layout and drawers/storage. That said, the only things I regret are the things are the things I could have spent a little more money on and chose not too! I.e. the slightly more expensive but quieter hood... All in all we love our kitchen though, and I'm glad we didn't spend more money than we did as I know we are never going to get all of it back if we need to sell and we have a million other things that need to be done on our house!

  • jhmarie
    7 years ago

    I remember reading a thread here that asked what people would do different in a kitchen remodel if they had to do it over, and one response that came up often was - smaller - less cabinets.

    If I ever build a kitchen from scratch I am going to really think about my real storage needs. My kitchen is smallish now - at least compared to those that pop in my inbox from various designer blogs - but it is much larger than my grandmothers' kitchens - from which came great food. I don't think I will ever need a larger kitchen, so I would probably give up size for quality. I also don't need expensive appliances - I buy the least expensive appliance by a good name company with good reviews.

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  • daisychain Zn3b
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    We found that anything custom with semi custom cabs jacked the price right up. I only discovered after the fact that a very small custom sized pullout pantry and one other custom cab cost a ridiculous portion of our overall cabinet budget. As others have said make sure you get the breakdown.

    i also wanted a custom island made of solid wood. The first few places I tried wanted a small fortune. I finally found a place that did it for me for a great price but I painted it myself. It turned out great for about half the price the others wanted.

  • Stan B
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    So far we've given up quartzite backsplash, a custom range hood, and are looking at some different flooring options since what we first liked priced out at $26/square foot installed. I expect there will be a few more before we are done.

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    Anglophilia
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    It took me 32 yrs to get the kitchen I wanted, and it was done in stages over those years. I could never have afforded to do it all at once! We started with the big bay window and the Corian countertops. Many years later, we did the hardwood floors, the Corian integrated sink, a Perrin & Rowe faucet, new pulls, and a new dishwasher. Then a few years later, the big stainless Vent-a-Hood and the new KA refrigerator,. Finally, now new cabinets, small change to the layout with big payoff, and marble backsplash and stunning new pulls.

    If you want inset doors and white, you need to find a dealer who sells Shiloh cabinets. They're outstanding and inset is not an upcharge and paint a minor one. There was never any idea of blowing out walks - not necessary and WAY over budget. My kitchen is 11 x 15. I have a lot of cabinets and drawers, tons of counter space and multiple cooks can be in it at once. I can't imagine wanting anything more. I just had to be patient and do things in steps.

  • budiningsih
    7 years ago

    This is a great discussion. We just finished our kitchen. I gave up having an open plan kitchen because in order to pull down a structural wall, we would have easily doubled our budget. I tried really hard to not give up on the layout.

    I found that it was pretty easily to not purchase high end appliances when I read that they don't cook better, harder to service and parts are more expensive and harder to find.

    I'm happy that I stuck it out and got the quartzite I wanted for the countertops. I don't know what your layout looks like, but if you have an island, that becomes the focal point of the room.

    I agree with lots of posters here about having *everything* itemized and scrutinized when it comes to semi custom cabinets. I originally wanted a deeper pull out pantry but quickly scrapped that idea when I found out that the customized depth of the pantry would cost an extra $1500!! Customized details in a semi custom line will really drive up costs.

    I'm glad however that I didn't compromise on the layout of the kitchen. It affects the whole function and efficiency of the kitchen.

    Good luck!

  • aprilneverends
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    We skimped on appliances. We bought open box ones, hunted down big sales, etc. Took time and energy, but saved money.

    They're mostly good brands, and a tiny scratch (that I can't even find right now) on my cook top doesn't bother me.

    We also plan to bring the old fridge with us(which is nothing to write home about). We'll see.

    The other things, we were able to get almost everything we wanted. But:

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    That's the second kitchen I did myself(meaning: designing from scratch etc); I loved the first one, as modest as it was, and I hope to love this one too.


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    MDLN
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    Did you consider Shiloh cabinets? They made beaded, inset cabs affordable for me. I saved by getting mid-range appliances. Am happy with my choices.

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    Lily, they're prefinished floors....so they came that way. Very durable.

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  • Russ Barnard
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    They do! You can easily get a dream kitchen, just figure out what the "dream" part is.. for ME.. it was counter space and a nice range.


    With Counter space, came more cabinets, so I allotted for that, but they were not the focus, so I was able to make allowances for them... ie.e not Walnut or Cherry wood.


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    Anyway, just rambling.. heh.. Can't wait to see some ideas and pictures!

    R

  • oasisowner
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    - Open floor plan. The cost to take out walls/move stairs would have been 50% the value of the house

    -Continuing the oak floors into the kitchen. Oh well, the sheet vinyl is so easy to clean.

    - A white induction range. Wolf? Not going to happen.

  • guco45
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    The only thing I cannot, will not compromise on, that MUST be installed, is a real live working ventilation hood. No more recirculating pieces of crap.

  • johnsoro25
    7 years ago

    We went with mid grade cabinets (Kraftmaid instead of the Woodmode I originally planned) to save money because I did not want to budge on the high end appliances or Alaska white granite budget. Very happy with the decision- love the durable finish of these cabinets!!

  • mrspete
    7 years ago

    We gave up having what we want NOW.

    By that I mean we opted to stay in our old, perfectly-located ranch house even though it is flawed in numerous ways. By staying here this long, we're in a position to build the house without budget constraints. Is it worthwhile? When I'm commuting 1.5 miles to work and when the kids were still attending high school right next door, I say yes. When I'm toting laundry the whole length of the house and paying the electrical bill for more space than we actually need, I think no.

  • mushcreek
    7 years ago

    Thinking further, I guess the biggest thing we gave up was having someone else build it! I built all of the cabinets from scratch, did the flooring, did the Formica counters, did the maple counters, did all of the plumbing, electrical, paint, and also did a tin ceiling. We spent $8K for everything, including appliances. I've always wondered what our kitchen would have cost to have someone else do it.

  • Gooster
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Our budget crisis was similar. I gave up a built-in fridge, which saved about $5 to 6K. (But I did get a custom MH hood) I also chose a quartz rather than Princess White quartzite, which was impossible to find and would have cost $5K more than the quartz (but got a custom marble table and marble BS). I also gave up continuous face fronts on certain runs, and some wainscoat on the island below the overhang (facing a wall --- $2K) --- buy got the beaded inset, the special mullions, integrated end panels, full custom units, drawers, etc. I also saved $2.5K on the range by choosing an available color vs. a custom one.

    Total cabinet savings was close to 15K to 20K vs. other lines, We got the cabinets from a major semicustom line that mixes in full custom items with no upcharge. The local manufacturers could not hit the price nor the quality. It takes skill and/or the right machinery to do beaded inset, so in my area it's not a widely available option for full local custom (lots are "faux local custom" -- boxes and factory doors). The bonus was that a more durable catalyzed finish is possible --- perhaps this might be what the OP's shop means by "automotive finish" --- not shiny, but hardened through a catalytic reaction. I did go with a local shop for my family room wall, which is site-painted and sees less wear. The quality there is less, to be frank (not poor, but just not as excellent).

  • 3katz4me
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I got the dream - everything I wanted and the big price tag I could have lived without. Ten years later I now realize I could have been quite happy with much less. In fact I've moved to a different house and I'm quite happy with a much less expensive kitchen. I obsessed and obsessed and spent most of my life on this forum for months which in retrospect was kind of ridiculous.

    On the plus side a high end kitchen was the right thing to do for the area we lived in and helped our house sell quickly. However I have no way of knowing if a less expensive newer kitchen would have done the same. I think your average person cannot discern between top of the line custom cabinetry (Plato) and something more middle of the road. People buying in our old neighborhood probably would recognize top appliance brands though and appreciate things like built in appliances. Expensive vs. less expensive granite - probably makes no difference as it's a matter of personal taste and preference.

    It was a fun project and I loved the kitchen while I lived there but I'd never spend that much money on a kitchen again.

  • cpartist
    7 years ago

    Haven't started building yet. We're building a new house. So what am I giving up?

    Certainly not my quartzite thankfully.

    I'm giving up custom cabinets, but really there is no need for custom when there are so many options with beautiful, well made lower priced lines nowadays. Frankly as long as they hold up and are drawers with blum hardware, I'll be happy.

    I'm giving up the Motowi tile backsplash I adore, and even the Fireclay or Pratt and Larson ones that were my second choices. I'll find something that works and will make me happy.

    I'm giving up on the side opening Bosch oven but when it comes down to it, I don't use an oven often enough to justify spending the money. Instead, I'm getting their lower priced 500 series oven. Also we're seriously considering buying a Big Green Egg for our barbecue so much of what I might have cooked in the oven will be cooked outside now. Thankfully in FL we can do that 12 months a year.

    I'm giving up the Rohl bridge faucet I fell in love with but found a DXV that is almost as pretty for almost 1/2 the price.

    I'm giving up the Rohl fireclay sink for a less expensive DXV fireclay sink. I doubt anyone will notice the difference!

    I'm not getting the Thermador integrated fridge, but instead am going with the Bosch which is almost exactly the same, and $1000 cheaper when you add in the 10% off for buying 3 Bosch appliances.

    I'm probably giving up on the fancy drawer organizers and instead will head to BB & B to pick up plain inserts.

    Lastly I may have to give up the uppermost cabinets above the uppers if it's too expensive and instead go with a soffit completely around the room. Still waiting on pricing for that one.

    And this isn't just the kitchen but the whole house, but I'm waiting on pricing for the floor I fell in love with. I got a great floor at a great price, but was just told they had a price increase. We hadn't locked in the flooring price so now I may be out of luck with it. Being I'll need close to 2500 square feet, if it increased in price by even $.50 I may have to rethink it.

  • cpartist
    7 years ago

    I think your average person cannot discern between top of the line custom cabinetry (Plato) and something more middle of the road.

    No they wouldn't. When I redid the kitchen in my first house back in the mid 80's, I used the basic white flat front Ikea kitchen cabinets. Why those? Because they were the cheapest door we could use and it was all we could afford.

    Fast forward 3 years and we decided to sell the house to move to a neighborhood with a better school district. In came a semi retired couple and the first thing she oohed and aahed over was our cabinets. She wanted to know if they were "so and so" brand (Some high end name brand.) I just smiled. They bought the house and added a few cabinets using the "so and so" brand. They never knew they paid probably 4-5x as much for their "so and so" cabinets as the Ikea ones.

  • designsaavy
    7 years ago

    Cpartist, check to see if there's a Big Green Eggfest held in your area. You can purchase one that's been used one day only for the fest at a discount.

  • just_janni
    7 years ago

    I gave up custom door / drawer fronts and went with one of the lowest cost IKEA doors - thankfully it's because I liked it - but I am keeping my options open because for changing the doors, I can totally change the look of the kitchen in the future. Being able to upgrade like that (in a weekend!) is one reason I went with IKEA.

    I also think I will be changing from a quartzite that was really wild, to a lighter color granite that I fell for. Jury still out on that one - but I suspect as we continue to COMPLETELY IGNORE AND DESTROY anything that even smells like a budget, these later decisions will be made for me.

    Ultimately - that's ok - it can always be changed later.

  • sherri1058
    7 years ago

    There are always compromises, whether you realize it at the time or not. It isn't that difficult to convince yourself that you want "this" when "that" is really not in either your comfort zone or your snack bracket. Or maybe there are other reasons why you would choose one thing over another. My kitchen was a design nightmare. We have an old house that has at least 2 extensions to the back. I had at least four different ceiling heights to contend with, one of which was a mere 6 1/2 feet I could have spend $$$$ to have one ceiling height, but at the end of the day I decided that I'd keep the "character" as what I was really looking for was a kitchen that functions and will continue to function for me as we age. I spent the money on the integrated fridge and the combi steam oven and the soapstone and I smile every time I enter the room!

  • heatheron40
    7 years ago

    I really can't say I really compromised on much. Our scope was huge as far as I am concerned. We have an old house so readjusting our expectations happens daily!

    We just never know what the old girl is hiding under layers of linoleum, plaster, siding and ceiling.....

    We tore off part of an old addition of cardboard tabletops and wiring strung through nails (we really had no idea that was how the walls were made the rest of the house was so solid)! We now have a new basement area that houses a new geothermal system, instant hot water, new foundation and above it, an eat in.

    We went with the bones first. I love my porch looking rafter ceiling and white cabinets. We did the vast majority of it ourselves. When it comes to finishes, I emotionally could not write out the check for 4,000 for marble counters. Instead, I found a beautiful 12X24 tile that I love for 400. Is it really a compromise or just understanding that marble may one day seem dated and I might want to change it out for something else. Not sure, but I just can't stand the thought of using that kind of natural resource and then tiring of it. I look at my tile and LOVE it everyday. It seems to have depth like onyx.

    I've said this before, as far as compromise goes: I really wanted a color for my stove, but the one I have is just clicking away so I keep it. I kinda run into the same conflict with the stove, what if I buy red and then want blue after 3 years? So, I wait ;^) I guess when the stove dies, I'll know what color I want!

  • sjh53
    7 years ago

    We are smack dab in the middle of our kitchen remodel. When my contractor first came out to discuss my plans, he listened politely until I told him I wanted to add a window between uppers and lowers so that I could see out to the E, not just S and SW... He looked at me, waited a minute, and said, "And just why do you think that is so important?" He knows me well, and that comment made me laugh, and really decide just what was important, and what were really pie in the sky ideas.

    35 years ago, when we first moved our house to our farm and began improving it, I immediately began dreaming of a major kitchen remodel. I had plans to blow out a wall, take in a porch, and add a lot more square footage. We did widen the original 3' opening to 7' to access our breakfast nook, which began life as a porch. 18 years ago, we replaced the original cabinets with inexpensive yet custom ones to last until the "big" remodel.... which is now happening.

    And now, retired, I find that what I dreamed and planned for all those years was good for entertainment and learning of all the choices available, but was not what I truly needed, and especially not what I wanted to spend money on. No walls are coming down, but money is being spent to upgrade electrical and add additional lighting, A local cabinet maker/childhood friend of our children, will be installing natural hickory cabinets next week. I found granite at a local yard for $20-$30 less than exotic granite or quartz would cost. Original v joint paneling removed from behind the cabinets has been recycled into a built in banquette for the breakfast nook. I saw some beautiful tiles that were over $30 a square foot, nixed them, and found some that will be just as lovely for under $10. A new slide in range is the only appliance purchase.... my old one is 17 years old, and I love the idea of keeping gunk from getting between the range and cabinets.

    Yes, the final results will be quite different from what I once dreamed of having, and I know for me, that's a very good thing. At this stage in life, I refuse to compromise by spending over my budget. There are trips my DH and I need to take while we can, and horses I need to care for. Knowing I kept remodeling costs under control allows me to do those things, and that brings me great joy.