Explain like I am 5 - why do I need 16 seer instead of 14
shari13
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Comments (17)Quite the system you have there already. I'd just match it up with the American Standard Heritage 15 heat pump and call it complete. You won't know the exact ratings, though they should be very similar to above, but you'll know you have a quality system if installed properly. I wouldn't consider a Goodman heat pump based on what I've seen in many cases, but there are happy Goodman owners, including Gary_G on these forums. They can be good units, but I think they're directed toward lower budget applications (they are) and hence tend to be more cheaply built. That's all I'll say about Goodman. I could write an article. I wouldn't consider an Infinity heat pump unless part of a complete Infinity system. And to be honest I'm not the biggest Carrier fan either. I get the feeling they're riding off their reputation for the most part. Many brands are. If it were my house, currently I'd install a Lennox or a Trane (or in this case American Standard). If I were in your situation in particular, I'd choose the American Standard....See Morebryant preferred 15 seer vs trane 16 seer - help me decide !!
Comments (20)Okay, after getting several quotes, we need some advice on selecting the best system for the best prices out of these 3 following quotes: #1 Steve's Service (A+ Rating BBB) BRYANT 165 A Puron 15 SEER / 2.5 ton 315JAV Evolution 80% /(70 BTU) / variable speed CE (coil) / 3 ton Bryant 7 day programmable / wireless thermostat (technician said that it shows Bryant on stat but not made by Bryant? could not locate this one Bryant web site) 4" media filter replacing all current registers with bar type registers 20 years warranty for heat exchanger from manuf. 10 years on compressor from manuf. 10 years parts/labor from company $5600 minus $400 Bryant rebate = $5200 out of pocket cost $5200 minus $1500 tax credit + $3700 actual cost And, since the Evolution furnace will push up the system the SEER to 16, Steve (tech) told us that we would qualify (with certificate from manuf.) for the $1500 tax credit Is this correct? #2 AC COOL (A+ BBB) Bryant 165 A / 2.5 ton Bryant312(3AV036)80% 2 speed 70 BTU Evap Coil CNRPT 2.5 ton Pro line thermostat 4" media filter replacing all current registers with bar type registers 20 years warranty for heat exchanger from manuf. 10 years on compressor from manuf. 10 years parts/labor from company $5800 minus $300 Bryant rebate Actual cost: $5500 (no tax credit) #3 Air Concepts (A+ BBB) American Standard Model: R410A / 4A7A5030B1000A 15 SEER / 2.5 Furnace: variable speed / AMT2B060A9U3VA / 95% / 60 BTU Evap. coil: 4X4C38/80 Honeywell 8000 thermostat 4" media filter replacing all current registers with bar type registers 30 years warranty for heat exchanger from manuf. 10 years on compressor from manuf. 2 years parts/labor from company 1 year maintenance 1 extra 4" filter $5987 minus $1500 (tax credit) = $4587 $4587 minus $200 (gas company rebate = $4287 So far, quote #1 seems to be a quality system for a good price. We would like to make the decision over the next couple of days. Let me know what system looks the best Are we missing anything here in these quotes? Thanks a bunch !!...See MoreHybrid System - Trane vs Bryant, Trane XL15I vs XL16I HP
Comments (82)I'm still waiting for a response from the Contractor, who has been sick the last few days, and I am still pushing for the HW Vision Pro IAQ Stat to be installed. Another question. I am thinking about going with the Air Handler with Heat Strips as the backup system to the Heatpump, instead of having the Gas Furnace. The main reasons for going with the Air Handler and Heat Strips is because the Effeciency ratings are actually higher for the Heatpumps with this configuration, and according to the Contractor the Air Handler and Heat Strips are less complex and should have fewer problems. My question is two fold. 1 - Do you agree with that statement and do you think going with the Air Handler and Heat Strips over the Gas Furnace is a good idea? 2 - Any feedback on what we can expect for the Heat that the Heat Strips put out, vs what we would have with the Gas Furnace? My wife is not thrilled with the so called "Heat" from our existing Heatpump, but that should be better with these new Heatpumps. But she Loves the Warmth of the Gas Furnace when that kicks in, and she wants to make sure that we aren't giving that up by going with Heat Strips vs the Gas Furnace. So any additional advice and input would be greatly appreciated since we have no experience with Air Handlers and Heat Strips as a backup heat source. Thanks!...See More14 seer singel stage Vs 16 seer two stage.
Comments (22)I realize this is single stage vs. two stage thread. My goal in stating what I stated was to show there is a realm above 2 stage, more or less as well as to show there are differences from one manufacturer from another. It wasn't my purpose to hijack a thread. There are those out there that say 2 speed equipment is unnecessary... so why would manufacturers make 5 stage equipment and variable speed equipment on top of an already unnecessary system? Many times in the field I've heard of people saying 'I don't want to gold plate anything'. Part of my response was geared to show that 2 stage systems these days are middle tier systems. People change homes so much: yes, this is why my job can be really challenging. Many times it's not replacing a whole system (which would be required to go to a 2 stage machine... in most cases*). Many times my job involves retro fit decisions. Replacing one or two pieces of an older system. In situations like that it's more about repairing the existing system and give a homeowner a solution they want. If I find out a home owner is only planning to stay in the home a few short years I rarely if ever even offer the 2 stage equipment. 2 Stage equipment is for those of you looking to stay in the home for at least a decade or longer. HVAC is not a one size fits all market. I am more likely to repair an existing system in some fashion than to replace. But replacement in some cases is the better option regardless of how long you plan to live in the home. If you live in my climate (Katy, Texas), you will have a tough time to sell a home without a functioning AC system....See Moreshari13
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