OT ...Fleas in the yard and rose bed
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Comments (29)Fascinating discussion! Reading through these reports, I'm wondering why my Augustifolia (English) 'Lady' has survived 14 years now (knock on wood) in central Virginia. Average rain/snowfall 72" with precipitation pretty consistent at 6" a month year-round including wet soggy Winters. High clay soil but pretty loamy, considering this was woodland for at least 100 years previously as the woodlot for an old farm, with all those shed leaves composting in place. Haven't pulled out the pH meter in years, but the soil in this area is naturally acidic & recall ranging from 5.5-6.2 on this property. Grew wonderful lavender in another garden sited between the Atlantic & a river in very sandy free-draining loam. Humid there all year & often salty fog. So I'm thinking it's not the atmospheric water vapor that bothers lavender... Tried many types in Virginia, often in pots, and none of them prospered regardless of how I fuddled with them. But there's no equivalent to the scent of lavender, leaf or bloom, so stubbornly persisted. Lady came as a quart from a local nursery which I'm sure didn't propigate it. While wondering where to plant it, it sat on a flagstone next to the hose spigot. Few weeks later, its roots grew into a mass through the drainage holes till they elevated the pot. Checking on that, realized the faucet had a slow leak right above it, dripping through the pot & keeping the stone damp. Sure seemed to really like that steady moisture. Cut away the pot to keep those happy roots & planted it in a spot recently cleared of turf at the dripline of a tall broad pin oak as the first plant in that new bed. Hose watered it as a new transplant along with a variety that landed in that bed, including roses. It obviously likes that spot, even though it receives only 6 hours of sun from 11-5 in the Summer, shaded by the tree in the morning & the house in the evening. Living in the shadow of that magnificent oak, it receives generous amounts of leaf mulch as the oak sheds its leaves. I've never disturbed that mulch or cultivated around the lavender in any way, so it composts in place. I've never pruned it besides clipping the flower wands. The needles dry by end of Winter & just run fingers over the stems to remove them before the new leaves appear. That's its total help from me. Over the years it's died out in the middle but extended itself around that circle & appears now as 6 plants evenly spaced as if planned. Very pretty. Think it's the deep oak leaf mulch that's led to its long life. Believe the leaves have shed the rain away from the crowns in the Winter & probably Summer as well, giving it that slow drip it loved by the faucet. The worms are plentiful in that bed from the natural compost & no doubt aerate the soil. The oak's feeder roots likely drink up any pooling water. But I suspect it's the oak leaves that snuggle around it that's made the difference. Don't see it offered locally any more, though it was considered a sensation when it first came out for coming true from seed & blooming the year of sowing, promoted as an annual lavender for far North gardens. Searching for a link, see it's still advertized as growing only 10" & sometimes called 'Lavender Lady'. Maybe when grown as an annual that's its first year's growth. This one was 2x3 feet when it grew out from the center & currently the "clump" is 3' high by 6' wide before it blooms. Imagine mine may have reseeded if the leaf mulch weren't so thick. Every once in a while I think of moving part of it & mulching it the same way, but then remember I ought to leave the old Lady alone. Plan to bring in new Ladies this year & see if I can duplicate the conditions to grow them in other areas. Highly recommend giving this cultivar a try! Here is a link that might be useful: 'Lady' This post was edited by vasue on Fri, Mar 7, 14 at 19:07...See MoreOT: 'Remodeling' in garden beds - Fall or Spring?
Comments (7)Nancy, This past spring I did something very much like what you describe, I took apart and shuffled plants from four beds, because I needed room for what I had wintersown and also because I just thought things would look better together. I wish I had done it the fall before, gotten the stuff moved and amended the beds, and then replanted what I wanted, cause I didn't get to a lot of it as early as I should have. Everything I moved was in an active, "wake up it's spring" growing mode, and suffered setbacks. A lot of stuff didn't bloom, such as peonies, which had grown too big really for transplant. But I think they survived, they were just very floppy. I'll see how they look next spring. By the time I got around to moving my butterfly bush, it was too late, and it didn't survive being transplanted. Anyway, my advice is to move stuff around now. You still have plenty of time there in Zone 7. If you can afford to hire help, I'd advise it. My DH helped me spread compost and move the big clumps of daylilies and peonies, but I did the rest and it was exhausting. Also, anything that you're moving, make sure the spot you're moving it to is ready for it, even down to having the hole dug, before you dig it up. The logistics of doing that this past spring was a bit of a nightmare, especially since DH only helped on weekends. Hope my advice helps. I rambled a bit, but my main point is -- do it now, not in the spring. Alison...See MoreOt Pics around my yard
Comments (22)Edna, your yard looks almost fairytale-like and completey foreign to me. I like the woodsy feel. Here in central cal (the central valley) there are no naturally occuring trees except for near rivers, or the foothills of the Sierra Nevada. Cities actually encourage the planting of trees because it reduces heat in the summertime, but if you live in the country (as it looks like you do) there are no trees except for one here or one there which are usually planted near people's homes. Other than that, you either have a cultivated field of some fruit or veggie or an empty lot with grasses and native plants surrounding you. Take a look at the terrain surrounding my home: beautiful palms, yes, but tree-barren landscapes. Notice there are only trees on the left side and in the distance to the right, and in both of those spots, there are homes....See MoreOt but important, how do you design your beds ?
Comments (27)Everyone has such pretty gardens above. As for the planning, I think it all depends on what you begin with, costs & style. I love the look of formal & modern landscaping; however, I bought a resale 8 year old home that looks somewhat traditional with an existing patio & a flat square backyard with a 6 ft privacy fence surrounding it. The patio is a curvy number with smaller interlock brick with a beige stone. It kind of sets the tone for the yard. It's not what I would have done, but it's nice enough that I can't justify replacing it. The original back fence line garden came with a few clumps of ornamental grass, a willow type shrub, a few other false spireas & a peony. In a bed that was about 3 feet deep. Already overgrown with weeds. So I spent the 1st summer cleaning that up, saved a few choice plants, planting 12 trees - front & back yards. And I started making fence line garden beds. Obviously have to plant the larger foundation plants & get them thriving first. So in 2 summers I made about 300 feet of garden around fence areas between the front and back. Planted the trees, 30ish varying shrubs, 45ish roses & quite a few perennials. Lots of edging & mulching. I also have a 6 ft fence along the front yard on one side. When we moved in there was no plants along the sides of the yards. I am very happy with the progress so far. But I want to extend more, add more, etc. Because my yard is very flat it was relatively easy & cheap to get as many beds as I have. If we had to do more hardscaping it would not be as simple. So I think a lot of someone's garden planning comes from the complexity or issues their actual property has ie. slopes, drainage, soil types, etc. Also I live in zone 5 so hardiness is a factor. I love boxwood hedging around beds, but it's easily ravished by winter winds, sun & ice damage. And I'm too lazy to winter protect that much. There are just so many variables. This is a picture of 3/4 of my back fence line last September. Started out as a 3 foot deep straight line bed. Here's another view of the back fence. There's is a small square patio tucked in the right corner. The stones for edging were used because there was a big pile of them in the corner when we moved in. So this came from an evolution plan. This is my side fence garden bed. Once the hornbeams & limelight get bigger I will widen this bed again....See Morehaku84_zone9
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