If you plant seeds from a Flavor Grenade - they most likely won't be one of those.... That's an interspecies hybrid.... No telling what you will get.... There are some really old "Land race" varieties of self fertile fruit - that more or less come up reasonably true... assuming they came out of a fairly good sized block of the same trees... A good example of this is the Indian Cling peach.... But... Unfortunately, you just have a pretty darned good chance you won't get the *Same* as the parent... That's why folks graft or do vegetative propagation.... But.. Don't let that stop you from trying it out.... While it may not be identical - it may very well be worthwhile none-the-less... Thanks

I have a feeling you could probably do either, but I'm not sure how pot culture would affect the seeds over winter. Pots are more susceptible to swings in temps and moisture levels, but I have a feeling it probably wouldn't affect the seeds. They might sprout earlier next spring in the pots, so you would have to watch them carefully and make sure they have moisture when they do sprout. Why don't you do both? The first couple of years I grew this verbena, I always started them inside around March, but then I realized they self-sowed like crazy and there really wasn't any need to do so. The ones started inside did mature and bloom earlier, but that was about the only advantage. One other thing: Are you sure you want to grow these in pots? I'm having a hard time picturing them growing this way because they grow so tall (over 4 feet), but maybe you're using really big pots. Kevin

Thanks all for your thoughts. If only it were a self seeded peony! In So. Cal! I could charge admission. Believe me, I went through my peony phase. The containers, the icing. No peonies. I know it looks a little like peony poppies, but it's way leafer, greener and not like the peony poppies I grew years ago. More like a coneflower, for sure. That's what I was holding out for when I potted them up last fall. But they are not at all as stiff and hairy as echinacea. Daisy like? Yep. There's something familiar, and it's not acting like a weed, but rather a perennial or biennial. I'm waiting on the flowers and will keep you posted!

There are actually several types of rudbekia (black eyed susan's botanical family name). Without a picture it would be hard to say exactly though.