I would read up on what approx. size is at maturity to help you with next step. I don't know those roses, so cant help with that. if any of them is a house eating monster, a container will be a temporary measure. In z9 you should be able to plant directly inground but will have to keep a super close eye as going into hottest part of year, so harder for roses to adjust. You can do this.

If you aren't going to plant them, definitely put them in a larger pot, but not larger than a 3 gallon. Mrs. BR Cant will need room. I'm not sure about the others.

Paul's Himalayan Musk wants to climb large trees. Don't treat it like a bonsai.

You could carefully pot them with potting soil in 2-3 gallon pots and keep them potted for at least a couple of months to get a good boost before they go in the ground. You can acclimate them a few days in part sun. Or all of those could probably go right in the ground in a well prepared hole with careful watering for the first season. No chemical fertilizers for the first year. They look really good.

I prefer potting bands to push growth before they go in the ground. If you're in Florida, you're about to get into the tough time of year for your area. Here in NJ, Winter is the tough time. In either case, I find that roses do better to get through the tough times as bigger plants. I have planted a few directly, and without exception, all lagged behind those I potted first by about a year.

I make my own potting mix. If I can find Bovung dehydrated manure, I use this recipe:

3 gallons peat moss
1 gallon vermiculite
1 gallon perlite
1 gallon Bovung dehydrated manure
3 cups Espoma Garden Tone

If I can find only Black Kow composted manure, I reduce the peat moss by one gallon and use 2 gallons of Black Kow, since it has half the N-P-K of Bovung.

Pot them up in this mix, soak them in a bucket of water for fifteen minutes or so to make sure the peat moss gets wet, and set them out to grow. You could probably plant them out in Autumn or even Winter. By then, they'll probably be double or triple their original sizes -- or more.

While they're growing, get their planting areas ready. Do you have root-knot nematodes in your area? If so, consider amending the soil with lots of organic matter and maybe some cheap clay kitty litter, throw down a thick layer of mulch, and also maybe plant a bunch of French marigolds where the roses will be planted. These steps can reduce or eliminate any root-knot nematodes, which is something you want if you're not planting roses budded onto 'Fortuniana'.

:-)

~Christopher

Thank you all for your input... I am in inland SoCalifornia... it has been extremely hot here (98-110). So I dont think its a good idea to put them directly in the ground just yet. I read all of your input and potted them up into 3 gal pots for now.

Stillanntn I plan on allowing Pauls Himalayan Musk to take over the hedge in the corner of my yard :)

I will definitely start preparing their forever home.. my soil is not so great.

If they start to bud should I cut the bud off or let it bloom?

Sorry, for some reason I thought you were in Florida. So in that case, ignore the warning about root-knot nematodes.

If I got bands that looked like yours of the roses they are and I potted them up in my potting mix, I'd just let them bloom. I especially want to make sure I got the right rose, so the first bloom provides that confirmation. Your bands look like they're ready to start growing. The only bands I kept disbudding were the really wimpy-looking ones. If you use my recipe, I think you'll find that disbudding becomes more of a chore than it seems to be worth.

:-)

~Christopher

Christopher.. No worries but A Reverence for Roses is in FLA so thats probably why. Thanks again for your help.. I will keep you posted on their progress.

How exciting to have your first delivery of old roses! They look like fantastic, healthy plants from RfR. Looking forward to any updates, since I can only garden vicariously at present. (I'm so jealous!) :-)

I forgot - if it gets horribly hot again, you might rig up some shade cloth over them, just until the temps get below 100.

Thanks Comtess and Jacqueline.. I will leave them in the cover patio.. I currently have them indoors wasnt sure if i should have left them outside or not.

Thank you so much for posting this. We always need more rose nurseries and it is nice to know of legitimate newer ones! They have a few I have been looking for for $10...

Haku -- I personally like to start with 1-G pots -- but considering the temperatures you're getting now, I think 2-G is better. Dappled shade is good, for the present. You very well may have to water them daily. That's what I'm doing with the 3 1-G pots I have right now . . . and even my larger pots are getting water every OTHER day.

FYI Mrs. B.R. Cant will eventually grow to be a good 7-8 ft tall and wide -- so when you do put her in the ground, consider her eventual size.

La Reine is harder. Some clones stay quite small. Others can go an easy 5-ft tall and wide.

And Paul's Himalayan Musk would be very happy if you gave it a very large tree to climb!

Kelly... I was a little uncertain at first because I never heard back from the company as far as tracking number and it being shipped... but the roses arrived well packaged and in good condition!

Thanks jerijen... I think i have the perfect spot for Mrs B.R. Cant and PHM.

They look great! Good luck with them.

I just place an order and then called to add on one more. The gentleman (Don?) was very nice and helpful. He said they have some found roses from NY that they hope to get going and have on the website by fall...

Wow, those roses look great for being shipped all the way across the country!

I'm so ordering some roses from them!

I just placed an order with them. Should be here Wednesday. They're about an hour away from me, but their nursery is open only by appointment and I wanted sale roses. Those bands look a lot better than the ones I got from RVR a few weeks ago. Sorry to say, but I have three Old Blush in one gallon pots that I started from cuttings from an old bush down the street back in March and they're already bigger than the bands I got from RVR.

I'm glad they are legit.. I've been reading different threads about places not being so. My next order will be from Burlington.. hopefully shipping will be a bit cheaper since Im also in California

Mrs B.R. Cant starting to bloom!!! It's supposed to be 105F today... i hope the blooms dont fry

Haku! So pretty!

Beautiful!

You will love Burlington. I'm in CA too, and her roses came 2 days after I ordered. Very inexpensive shipping too.

Mrs B.R. Cant from A Reverence for Roses... the band has 2 buds and 2 blooms La Reine and Paul's Himalayan Musk are putting out new leaves.

Wow, those are so nice!!!

I cant wait for it to mature and be a nice bush :)