Thanks Ken I did e-mail the photos. Pat thought Summer Sun and that is close. Summer Sun has a lighter reverse petal color. These 3 do not unless it develops in the near future.

Patty- my Summer Sun just finished blooming and didn't look like your pics at all. The flower is really full and very vividly colored and no stamens really showed. Mine looked just like the pics at New Flora or Kordes sites. I have a pale yellow rose that was mislabeled as FFT and a second FFT that hasn't bloomed yet so I'm hoping it is indeed FFT. The bud is orangy with some red in it and looks like pictures of FFT buds I've seen. I should know in a couple of days if this one is labeled correctly. It's so frustrating to not get the correct rose especially when you have no clue what it is!

Sharon

Thanks Sharon, I also have Summer Sun and this bloom isn't even close. I was so looking forward to getting more FFT's. I have been concerned what with rrd and things what if something happen to her. Since it's one of my favorites thought it time to back it up with a couple extra's.

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I know. She's so pretty and as far as I can see RU is the only vendor who sells it own root. Thankfully I haven't seen any signs of RRD around here. We have a small amount of multiflora around here but it's 1/2 mile from my house and we have no close neighbors. Hopefully I won't see this horrible disease here. I know Palantine lists her but I don't want to buy any more grafted roses if at all possible. I wonder if we could suggest to Chamblee's to propagate it. It would be nice to have more than one source.

Maybe Chris could give them a nudge :-)

Sharon

Are you sure that is a Kordes rose? It looks like one of the 1950s floribundas, Fashion, maybe. RU does sell quite a few of those.

Hi Patty, my FFT I just got from RU just bloomed and it looks exactly like your mislabeled rose that you got from RU. I'll have to contact Pat to send a replacement. She has some in the greenhouse but they're not blooming so she's afraid to send out a replacement. I think I'll tell her that I'll wait until they flower before she sends one out to be on the safe side. So frustrating!!

This rose literally went from a tight bud to fully open overnight so definitely not FFT

Sharon

It does not look like a Kordes to me. Just looked up Fashion and it looks exactly like mine. Boy does it pay to ask on here. A big thank you to all who answered.

Sharon, I'm also going to call Carol at Northland Rosarium. Such a wonderful lady and she use to sell the flower circus series. Back when they were introduced to the US. I'll bet there is one in their garden somewhere.

Chris if you happen to see this thread any chance of getting this going with an own root nursery. Maybe add a US patent on it. I see that help me find had a good plus rating. This rose should be excellent plus.

Sharon mine did the same thing. Closed to fully open in one day. Well if I have no luck with getting it anywhere. Then I'll cross my fingers and root it my self. If there is no patent no it? Then I'll have a plant for you next spring.

Lucky you. I wrote to Pat to see if she could ship me some after they flower to make sure it's the correct rose. I wonder if Palatine's would go own root at some point?

Sharon mine is from Palatine. It was planted rather far from the house. I loved it so much that I dug it to move it closer. It was clear she had gone own root and abandoned the multiflora root stock. So I cut off the root stock, sealed it and replanted it as an own root.

I'm also wondering if the problem with selling this as an own root plant is the size. She puts out her main canes. Then branches but grows very little as in there aren't many spots to take cuttings from. At least that is how she grows for me. I ask the rose every year how she can have so many flowers and barely grow while producing them.

Patty, that is good to know that she ended up going own root eventually. I'm hoping Pat will have some FFT that she can send me, if not Palatines unless Chamblee's decides to carry her. I'm wanting a few of these since so many state she stays small. I have 'Kosmos' coming from RU and have an older own root 'Sisters Fairy Tale' that does really well and stays small. I can't hope to have "one of each" like so many of the rose growers here since I don't get the 8 hours of sun so many roses require in any part of my yard, the best is about 5 hours of sun. I just want roses that will do well in my limited sunlight gardens, are black spot resistant and can survive our crazy, erratic winter weather and stay manageable in size. Scent is a bonus. Kordes do very well as do Easy Elegance. My 'Champagne Wishes' bought own root last year is huge and loaded with buds. That's the kind of roses I want to grow :-)

Ha, Thats 2 good reports on Champagne Wishes thats good enough for me.

It is looking good, Hasn't bloomed yet but we have had a very cool spring, nice for working in the garden but it makes the roses a bit lazy :-)

Champagne Wishes probably gets 4 hours of sun a day then dappled shade since we are so surrounded by huge Oak Trees, White Pines and Maples but she's still putting out a lot of buds. I had, I think, one bloom last year so it will be nice to see what she really can do!!

Another great EE rose is 'Yellow Submarine'. This went through our winter no problem and has a ton of buds too. Nice sunny yellow ruffly looking flowers with a sweet, soft scent. Both are very easy care roses and not demanding of perfect conditions.

Sharon, EE My Girl does well in 5 hours of sun. Nice full bloom and dark pink Austin like shade. Thanks for the information on Yellow Submarine. I finally found two of them this spring. Lost mine in the record rain year.

Oh, that stinks. Lucky you found replacements though. Only one nursery around me carries EE roses and has a very limited selection.

I just checked My Girl out. She's listed to be a shorter rose, 2-3 feet so nice for the front of the border. I have a back yard garden that gets less sun than my front yard garden. Maybe she'll work there. I like the brighter roses at a distance since they give a nice bit of punch to the gardens farther from the house. How tall does yours get?

My mine are just going into their third year here so don't know for sure yet. I'm thinking she will be between 3 or 3 1/2 feet. If you search on here there is someone last year that posted photos of a circle bed with EE roses. Could be wrong but I think My Girl was the tallest in the group. This year I pick up two My Girls from Northland Rosarium. Other wise I have to drive to Chicago to get them. A nice vigorous rose. The last ones grew from a tiny bands to like two feet and bushy in the same year.