At least you did a good deed, even if you had to turn your eyes.

Dh & I were in Dollar Tree. Lady in front of us, 60ish, wearing a denim skirt, was showing off plumbing details..... :0)

Edited to say: she was skinny. Would have been a cool look except for the crack...

Many >40 people and many overweight people (well, more women than men) wear clothing that's unflattering to their bodies. Sometimes too small, sometimes too clingy. I don't know what ever made so many fat women think that wearing body-hugging stretchy stuff over their torsos and legs ( I don't know what the names are, is it leotards and leggings) is anything other than disgusting. It makes them look like sausages with too much stuffing and not enough casing.

I'll look at butt cracks (of either gender) all day instead of some 250+ pound dainty thing wearing tights and some carrying so much weight that they're too heavy to walk through a store and so need a scooter. (Yes, I know, there are many unfortunate medical reasons people have that make scooters necessary and I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people who have eaten so much that they can no longer walk around).

I've noticed the yoga pants adoption by people who've probably never practiced (or maybe never even heard of) yoga, but I'd prefer to see everything decently covered, no matter what size.

My perspective is that few people are disgusting, and that even overweight people need acceptance for who they are as people.

Well said Lucille. I'm not a fan of people being disparaging about other people's weight or appearance. It's likely harder for overweight people to lose weight since they may have joint issues anyway that can make exercise hard, and insulin resistance which can make it easier for some to keep gaining. I'd rather be around an overweight kind person than someone who acts like a jerk and is thin.

People with low economic status pick poor choices because they are cheap and filling. Cost for cost, a bag of greasy potato chips will satisfy you longer than an apple. The more poor choices, the heavier you get and then need more food to satisfy your hunger.

I don't know when the yoga pants craze became accepted as everyday, anytime wear. Again, maybe it is part economics. You can get a really cheap pair of yoga pants at Target or Marshall's. They are easier to buy than searching for jeans or slacks that will fit properly. That said, even for a fit woman, discretion would be appreciated. If you are wearing your yoga pants to the grocery, put on a tunic length top.

That said, my DH and I have a joke when we see various views of people in too tight clothing. They didn't check themselves out in the back! I think some people look at themselves without checking all the angles. Facing front, they look fine.

Weight is such a sensitive issue, even for many of us here who are considered within the healthy range. We all struggle. We all have our idea of an ideal weight and for most of us it is at least 5 to 10 pounds less than what we are.

I agree with Lucille and Trance. People all have issues.

Snidely, I understand what you are saying. But, we can blame the fashion world too. There was a time where you could hardly find a t-shirt that didn't have spandex in it. Very few women look good in tight clothing. Lately, things have gotten a bit better, with more choices of flowing blouses. The hard part now is trying to avoid the see through, lacy cut out clothing! Men have it so much easier.

"Today, in the grocery line, I turned to see a man behind me with one
item (case of cat food and no cart). I said, "Go ahead if you'd like,
since you have only one." He said thanks, and moved ahead. I then
realized he had a 'plumber's crack', which I had to turn my head to
avoid seeing, the whole time I was behind him. Some days it doesn't pay
to be nice. (Oh, pun in title intended ;)."

Obesity is a big problem, and it is difficult to lose weight. People
do make bad choices in choosing what to eat. My perspective is that few
people are disgusting, and that even overweight people need acceptance
for who they are as people...But I think the vast majority of people are beautiful because of their
personalities, and I think that most of us have struggles and challenges
in some issues in our lives, and probably come up short in one way or
another in other people's ideas of perfection.

lucille, you quoted my original post, verbatim, and then commented on obesity. I didn't indicate whether the man I let go ahead of me was obese, overweight, or as thin as a rail. I didn't mention anything about his physical stature, and in fact, he wasn't obese. Overweight people aren't the only ones with butt cracks--are you assuming that because his crack was exposed, he must be obese? Or are you implying that all plumbers are obese, since I referred to it as a 'plumber's crack'?

I didn't comment on anyone's weight, only on people of any size being decently covered (my second post, in response to snidely). I agree that all people need to be accepted for who they are (and how they treat others), but no matter how perfect, IMO a stranger's exposed butt crack is not appealing, and I'd prefer not to see it in the grocery line. And that's exactly what my post was about.

I was shopping at Meijers the other day and a somewhat heavy 40ish looking gal was on a store scooter and noticed on her way out she stopped and bought a large pop. I'm thinking "way to go girl, you could have picked something with less calories!"

Here I go again with the conspiracy theories, and it doesn't relate to OPs original topic of plumber butt, but the fact is that a lot of times plumber butt comes from having to wear one's pants below the belly due to obesity. Thus, the crack sticks out. I can see why obesity was assumed. But, back to the conspiracy theory. We must blame our wonderful government for the obesity epidemic, and subsidizing the corn and sugar producers to make cheap, non-nutrient dense food stuff (I won't even call it real food) readily available. They vilified saturated fat and told us to eat 11 servings of "healthy whole grains". That crap is addicting and not filling, so people eat and eat and eat. It's not just the poor anymore, every socio-economic status has it's share of obesity. If you really want a great perspective on where we went wrong, read Nina Teischolz's book "The Big Fat Surprise". It's eye opening.

Lucille has a point, but I don't think MamaGoose was being intentionally mean. Sometimes there are those things that you just can't un-see. You hold in your reaction when you can and release it later. You can't react, but your mind goes there.

A lot of people wear yoga pants around here including me. I don't do yoga, but I do walk for exercise one or two times a day. I wear my yoga pants with a longer t-shirt or tunic type shirts. I also have non-yoga pants when I go someplace where something else wold be more appropriate. I like the yoga pants because it's difficult to find well fitting casual clothes

Way to go, marylmi, you couldn't have been any more judgemental!

Lucille, I have deleted my comment! You were kind enough to point out, nicely, that it was very insensitive. As a struggling overweight person myself, I understand only too well what a battle it is. Why is it that scientists have put men on the moon but cannot find any sort of help for obesity? (That was said in jest as it is more difficult that space travel!)

I should like to say that my original post was to tell how as friendly as my GD is and was, my dilemma was that she would approach the mother-daughter duo and nicely start to educate them on why all their choices were wrong!

Enough said, but I should refrain from commenting in the middle of the night when I can't sleep! I should realize that I will offend someone!

Sorry Moonie, I guess I was being judgemental and who knows , that could have been her first soft drink in a long time. I know people can be overweight for a lot of reasons and we shouldn't judge until we have "walked in their shoes!"

Re: Tunic tops. I'd love, love to wear them, but I can't find any. Or the ones that I do see are the "shark-bite" style where it's high at the front and long at the back. I want my front and back covered.

I hate buying t-shirts and tops of any kind. They all have spandex etc and are fitted. They're hot in the summer.

I first saw tunics when Pioneer Woman aired. I like the long, flowy style, and the 3/4 length sleeves.

No, marylmi, I'M sorry and apologize! I have been so very judgemental myself this weekend while spending the weekend with my BIL, who is an authority on all topics! *please hear my great big sigh*

Jasdip, I don't feel I'm tall enough that many tunic style tops are flattering on me. I don't know your height, but a friend of mine who is tall, rail thin and works daily to stay that way will slip into the teen's department and buy dresses that she wears with leggings, tights. Tunic length on her - and she always looks stunning and tastefully dressed ;) A grandmother.

"Judgmental" seems to be the favorite word of our era. It's usually used in an accusatory and scornful way (in a judgmental way!), on a par with "A for Adulteress" in the Scarlet Letter. Whack, you've been identified and branded for what you are.

If you notice someone, something they have or do, or something they say, and then share your reaction or impression, that's being "judgmental". That's how the word seems to normally be used. Sorry, no, that's being observant or simply having a reaction or opinion. The only known items that can be used for prevention are a blindfold and noise-cancelling earphones. Or a lobotomy.

Sometimes, you just have to "turn the other cheek"!

There are many, many clothing choices available. I think eld6161 and her DH are right about people failing to use a three-way mirror. I'm sure some only look at their faces in the mirror.

Commenting on someone's poor appearance in public is NOT the same as commenting on their weight. It's about 'what you do with what you've got'! (There are also different 'standards' about what's attractive.)

I've recently had some "Oh, my!" moments when the camera pulls back during a TV interview. The 'head and shoulders' shot is OK, but when you see the whole -- usually *man* -- he is elephantine! (Too much sitting, thinking, talking?)

SnidelyWhiplash was right about "judgmental". I tend to chuckle when I see that word bantered around. It's has to be a top 10 catch phrase of the forum. Often people accuse others of being judgmental but when they themselves make a comment on something, they're not judgmental.

Another favorite catch phrase these days is the oxymoron "passive aggressive". If someone else stands up for their rights, they're "passive aggressive" but when they do it, they usually look for support as they've somehow been "wronged".

When it comes to butt crack, I just say no.

:)

yesterday while in Walmart I was walking behind this couple and the lady had on a nice summer type dress. The middle section was a yellow color and you could see right though it, just to see her BLACK G-string! What are these people thinking???? That was not at all attractive! I am surprised her husband never said something to her. I know mine would have.

JoAnn I'm laughing. It sounds like you saw one of the People of Walmart. The husband wasn't complaining because he knew she was being sexy just for him. You don't have to understand it. Just accept that she was there for him. Lol!

People's weight is one thing, butt crack is entirely different. I would have moved to another line if possible.

Sorry, that's something you just can't "unsee".

I was busy yesterday, and thought this would drop off. I was in Aldi, and those of you who shop there probably know that only one line open is the norm. If I'd been in Kroger and saw the last person in a line with his crack exposed, I'd have found another check-out station, but after letting the man go ahead, I don't know how I could have moved, even if another check-out was available. Maybe quietly backed away and sneaked sideways? Thrown an apple toward the front of the store to create a diversion?

Thank you, to all who have commented, and especially to those who took my post in the spirit in which it was offered (hence the silly pun and winky). The best comments were hounds_x_two and Annie--you both gave me a much-needed chuckle. :)

Thank you, to all who have commented, and especially to those who took my post in the spirit in which it was offered (hence the silly pun and winky).

*****

You were just being cheeky.

I crack me up!

(ok, I'll stop now)

:D, mimi!

Not sure plumbers crack=obesity... Usually it is a belt deficiency.

Funny this does seem to be something that happens with overweight people. Maybe it's the belt problem. Or similarly the lack of waist.

Thank you, to all who have commented, and especially to those who took my post in the spirit in which it was offered

Your post never alluded to the guy being obese, but one of the first responses from snidely went off on the obesity tangent and what "fat women" wear.Not sure what it had to do with butt cracks.

I don't know what ever made so many fat women think that wearing
body-hugging stretchy stuff over their torsos and legs ( I don't know
what the names are, is it leotards and leggings) is anything other than
disgusting.

btw, here we call exposed butt crack "plumbers cleavage" which puts a whole other spin on it lol.

' one of the first responses from snidely went off on the obesity tangent and what "fat women" wear. Not sure what it had to do with butt cracks.'

... or why that one didn't matter. I find it completely amusing how such a diatribe on old and fat women didn't cause a ruckus among what is mostly women here but the other post about weight struggles and valuing people for things other than their physical appearance did.

GW is an enigma that way.

An exposed butt crack in a grocery store?!!! If I saw that I would be nauseated and have to leave...

A couple weeks ago I saw a very heavy grocery store kid stocking shelves and his butt was hanging out obscenely. Actually saw that with a female employee once too. You have to wonder why they don't care. Maybe they think it's hip.

Apparently it's a style for male youth to let their pants drop low. I've seen underwear showing on the back as their pants are falling down and one time very risque at the front to say the least. In the city there are signs 'hoods down, pants up, cell phones off' on the door at some places.

A number of years ago at a family birthday celebration, a young female had the whole back of her thong showing when she sat.

why that one didn't matter.

snookums, I decided not to take snidely's bait, since I had posted what I thought was a rather lighthearted thread.

The only reason Lucille's post gave me a moment's pause, is because she quoted my post, as if I was the one who blasted overweight people. I, too, think she was probably responding to snidely's post.

I'm sure he expected more of a backlash, too. If you are of the mind to respond to that issue, have at it, with my blessing.

Bait? No, not hardly. Sorry if that disappoints you.

You mentioned a clothing failure that made you want to turn your head (or to have that kind of reaction, needn't have been a literal comment). My response was about my having the same reaction to a different kind of clothing failure. Lighthearted? Yeah, mine was too (the 250+ pound dainty thing in tights.)