Will American Holly interbreed with "Blue Prince"?
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Comments (5)Thank you all - your advice is proving invaluable! I managed to get out yesterday, and lo and behold actually found a nursery with Ilex "Dr. Kassab", but I wasn't very impressed with them! They were sort of sparse, and, who knows, maybe they weren't great specimens but they made the first impression. The spot where I was going to use these needs 6 shrubs that are dense, to form a screen to hide my "utility yard". Dragon Lady sounds like it would be a good fit there. I will definitely look into the ilex opaca - I like the thought that it will blend into the landscape, which is what I'm looking for down the side of the property line. Need to do some more research on the varieties and availability here. I was also impressed with the looks of the Oak Leaf holly I saw in one of the nurseries - anyone have any feedback on that one? I'm busy thinking that by the time I plant all these hollies, I'd better name my property some holly name - "Holly Heaven", or something! LOL...See MorePlant and Forget Trees for Costal New England.
Comments (15)If anyone wants to know how their advice turned out: A website says we have "Merrimac Fine Sandy Loam". Observation reveals sandy gravel on one side of the property, a thin strip of compacted clay near the road. I did take ken_adrian's advice and contact my county soil conservation office. More helpfully, I found the New Hampshire State Nursery and the New York State Nursery. Great places. I planted three potted Beach Plum which all took. I planted a large number of bare root ones from the county, and a couple seem to be still alive (though it is too early to say). I planted a potted American Persimmon which is doing great, and two bare root ones that promptly died. I planted four paw paw, two of which survived, two of which fell prey to someone's weed wacker. One of the bare root Pitch Pine survived, none of the bare root Blue Spruce. This Spring I planted a number of bare root Black Walnut. One died, the rest seem to be doing great. (Best success rate in "plant and forget) so far. Also planted the NH State Nursery "Christmas Tree Package" of White Fire and White Spruce, which so far seem to be doing well (though it is too early to say...those were tiny.) I've gotten a number of potted English Holly, Blue Princess Holy and Blue Prince Holly, which survived. My transplanted rescue and mail-order potted American Holly have all died. Another of the original, developer planted maples died of wind damage. Many others have lost limbs. No salt issues, just wind....See MoreNellie Stevens Holly Shipped & Planted - Pics
Comments (46)I have one Nellie Steven. About 18 months ago, I had one large Maple tree removed from the front (due to disease and crowding), well, I noticed that the Nellie Stevens was completely lopsided as half of it was in shade of the Maple. The part in the sun, was growing fast. I have other Hollies (Japanese, Blues, China series...so, I noticed the difference. Now, I expect it will recover some decent shape as it is in full sun. So, this variety can handle full, southern exposure and a good deal of heat. Meantime, my Blue Princess/Prince holly that are in shade are fast, those in the sun have either never taken off or seem stunted. Location, location, location as they say! I suspect the clay soil is less of a factor, my soil is also fairly clay. Makes a great tree if provided its space. Birds also love the berries (had a flock of wild turkeys crazy about them a couple of weekends ago)....See Moreholly shrubs w/ black walnut?
Comments (5)Thanks to all of you for your updates, and for for future ones too. There are lots of ambiguous lists out there for tolerant plants, because of the variety of growing conditions, management, etc. Water is a major issue under black walnut trees, they are very thirsty! The competition is far to much for a neglected sapling or shrubling. Keep those Messervae hollies well watered their first years as suggested, and during any long dry spell. Water slow and deep, so that the roots really spread out. Ill take some cuttings (or layer rather) of my blue princess and China girl and try them out under driplinE. I um, planted mine well outside it....lol A mature walnut creates a perfect dappled shade for so many great plants. Ibe come to really appreciate them. Sweetshrub, spicebush, hemlock, dogwoods, Hosta, bulbs of all flavors, ferns, yarrow, monarda, japanese maple, beauty berry, etc etc. oh carolina silverbell. I’m forgetting some, all planted adjacent to or within drip line. Oh. Witch hazel, itea, ..... I’m also glad to have some acreage without walnuts. But I treasure the one that takes center stage on our front yard. There is more organic matter/humus under that tree than anywhere on my property. PS I’m ruthless in my quest to secure the walnuts before the squirrels. We have loads of hickories, oaks, and others. But they bury them in my jugLomé (what is with this Hojzz spell check.??.) ok thr squirrels bury them and by the time you see the leaves peeking out, there’s an impressive lateral taproot that seems to never end. I dug one from a sprout on the edge of my yard this summer. It was 12’ Long and up to an inch in diameter. With branching. It is tragically hard to kill those little fu... guys. Another sprouted right in the center of a 20 yo American filbert. How does one surgically remove THAT? I can’t just pull it like any other weed, it would scoff it ripping it’s top off a dozen times over 2 Years. Cutting it 12” below soil? Nooo prob. I believe they would keep up this zombie walnut program until my death — ostensibly a few decades yet -- at which time it would have an extensive underground root system, and could grow a 60’ tall tree within two seasons of me being buried. Impressive really....See More- 10 years ago
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