Hi. No one has answered yet, so I'll have a go. I reckon the top one is a Sedum. And I've got a plant that looks like the 2nd one which is a Sedum multiceps I think (I'm not home to check the name tag), so that's my guess on that one. I love Sedums, they are one my favourites :-) The top one is extremely similar (or hopefully the same one) as a Sedum I had years ago. It grew like yours all bushy and we also had it in a hanging pot. It had a huge mass of little yellow flowers. I've been looking for it ever since, but yours has come the closest to the leaf size and growth pattern. So I too am very interested in seeing an ID.

You're so right! I feel like a dummy about the Frosty, because I see its crested form all over the place...guess I'd just never seen the normal kind before. But that's totally it. I'm almost positive you're correct about the cactus, too. Thanks for your help!

I’ve killed more succulents than I’d like to admit. Hundreds of dollars rotted or burnt to a crisp. Nonetheless, I am happy to report that I had maybe one loss this past year? I’ve learned to ignore the overall rules and adapt to what works for my succulents in my environment. I started out with succulents by ordering about $200 worth of sempervivums “hens and chicks”. For starters, they advertised echeverias on their pictures but I didn’t know the difference at the time. All I knew is that I loved the look and that nothing would grow on the south side of my house because of the intense heat. My semps came with instructions hardy to zone 9, plant in full sun. I lovingly did so along with two trays of sedum and they did very well for maybe two months until we started getting heat waves in May. It only took one day for them to burn to the point where they almost fell apart. And that was my first massacre. I finally learned to trust my gut after visiting my aunt who waters her succulents every two days, keeps them in part shade, doesn’t protect them from frost or heat and I realized she broke every single rule yet had the biggest most gorgeous succulents I had ever seen. So with time, I’ve learned what works and what doesn’t and I feel more confident in buying the more expensive succulents because mostly everything stays alive now. The one piece of advice that has always worked for me and I think it works for almost anyone is if you have any doubts on whether to water or not, then don’t water. It’s easier to kill from overwatering than underwatering. but anyway, sorry for the rambling. I kinda just wanted to say don’t give up and don’t be afraid to fail a few times.

I haven't been able to figure out if anything is actually wrong with it, because it has looked the same since I got it last spring at a greenhouse. it didn’t have a tag with it so I never knew what it was, but I had it in full sout sun outside all last summer and now indoors in east window (new apartment) and it’s always looked the same. Some stems grow long and drop and some grow stiff and upright. I repotted a month ago thinking new soil would change it but still nothing. I started to think this is just what it does, but couldn’t know because I didn’t know what it was!