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Kijiji/Craigslist is a pain

Jasdip
8 years ago

I'm trying to help a friend sell some furniture. It's a teak buffet and hutch. He doesn't know how to do Kijiji, etc. So I took the pictures, posted it and the emails come to me.

I use Kijiji regularly, and have good success selling both small and large items, but people always want to offer too low of a price.

There's a fair bit of interest in the buffet/hutch, but some offer a cheaper price because they have to pay a driver to pick it up. When I asked if they lived in town, as we could deliver, they live 2 hours away. Well, it's not my problem that you want something, and offer a cheaper price to cover the delivery.

Someone else can only pick it up during the day, because she doesn't like driving on the highway at nite (again, 2 hours away). Never mind that my friend works during the day.

This is more pain than it's worth, even though teak still seems to be popular.

Comments (29)

  • jewelisfabulous
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I find the same flaky buyers are on every type of buy/sell site.

    I had one that first wanted me to hold the item for a week until she could pick it up. Because I had no other interest in the item, I agreed. On the appointed day, she didn't show and didn't communicate. When I reached out to her, she said she "doesn't drive in the rain or at night". When I pointed out that it wasn't raining or night time on the scheduled pick-up date/time, she went ballistic at how I was being unreasonable expecting her to pick the item up as it was only a $15 thing anyway. I responded that, whether $15, $150, or $1500, the site rules state that a commitment to buy is a commitment to buy. I then reported her antics to the moderator and had her kicked off the site.

    I had another buyer just this week that literally lives down the street from me. Besides her seeming ability to start a private message conversation asking for details to finalize pick-up arrangements, she couldn't seem to ever respond back to my messages giving her options on pick-up. It took her a full week to finally get the item which was puzzling because she could have come at any time given it was a porch pick-up. Again, this was an item with a limited buying pool, so I was willing to put up with the disorganization.

    For "hot" items though, I'm polite but ruthless with people who want special treatment or want to low ball. My go-to phrase is, "There's too much interest in this item to accept your (discounted offer, to hold the item for you, to deliver the item to you......or whatever)."

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    LOL, a woman asked if I'd take a quoted price. I agreed, and gave her the address. She wrote back with "excuse me?". I responded and said that I agreed on her offering price, and I gave her the address. She said she didn't say that she wanted, it, just asked if I'd take x number of dollars. I then wrote asking if she made a habit of trolling Kijiji, offering a price but not wanting the item. Of course she accused me of harassing her, and not to bother her again! Too funny!!!

  • rob333 (zone 7b)
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    People are crazy. I know I already "liked" lucille's comment, but I really like the comment. Good way to shut them up. Sure, I'll hold it... for a fee. Made me giggle.

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    Cassandra, I'm thinking that when someone asks if 'it' is still available, they are a despicable spammer email collector.

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    I've had pretty good luck selling, not so much buying.

    It seems like everything is already gone by the time I email!

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    it finally dawned on me that they didn't know if the seller was me or a serial killer...but if husband was worried, why didn't he come with wife?

    & if seller was a serial killer, would he have allowed the buyer to make a phone call?

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  • Jasdip
    Original Author
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    A classic is when someone comes with a little short of the agreed-upon price, hoping that the buyer will sell it anyway. Most people who respond always low-ball, or try to get it at a lower price. Because of that, I always ask more than I would take, knowing that I'll get lower offers. I'm always impressed when people buy my items without any haggling and pay full price.

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    I'm not sure asking if it's still available is a bad thing. You may have posted in the morning and by lunch it's gone, but you haven't had a chance to take it down yet? But it's the other way around for me. I'll say I am very interested, is it still available, and no answer. At all. I find that irritating. So both sides should probably be more patient :)

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    I agree, if they are asking if 'the chair' or whatever, is still available. But those fishing for email addresses send out a lot of emails asking if 'it' is still available, they can send that email to everyone.

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    That, I understand. Thanks Lucille! I had no idea what others were saying, obviously.


    I still don't understand if I say I am very interested, why I don't hear back? But that's probably just where I live. I'll try to be more patient ;)

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  • Jasdip
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    Debby I immediately delete any emails that say "I'll offer you $25" on an $80 item that I'm selling. I get a number of those. No, it's not an auction, it's a set price.

  • lucillle
    8 years ago

    I ignore lowballers. However, haggling can be a cultural thing, the person making a lower offer may expect a counter offer somewhere between the original price and their first offer.

    Very few people here, for instance, would walk into a car dealership and pay the sticker price. Reasonable negotiation is expected.

  • cynic
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Something used is historically haggling. If you don't make it clear, and more than just the limp term "$X.xx firm.", then you invite haggling so don't get hyped up over it. Same for pick up only since many will meet somewhere means they're willing to drive so again, it's invited. Something used is at best 1/2 price. Plus the buyer assumes the risk that it's stolen or otherwise. When someone demands new or near-new price for something used I laugh at them.

    Around here Craigslist uses a remailer so the farming of email addresses is no longer an issue unless you give the address out, which I wouldn't. I will meet people nearby to keep them from going to my house for security reasons. Plus I never just give out my address. I will give them directions to the corner or a fake address that a GPS unit will get them to the corner (2000 This St. and postal code) then WHEN THEY GET THERE, I'll guide them the rest of the way. That filters nearly all of the fakes, flakes and no-shows. I also find out where they're located (general area) so I know how long it will take them to arrive then require they tell me when they leave so I know when to expect them. If they're 15 min late and don't contact me, they're not coming, no more time wasted and I don't leave home.

    That's a great idea for the deposit lucillle. And it's not as a joke, it's a good business practice.

    Craigslist has become far superior to newspapers for finding many things. I find lawn care, snow plowing/blowing and other things and it's much easier to find someone close-by.

    I get frustrated when people post ads to sell things then won't have the courtesy of saying when they're available or anything. Any business would post its hours If you only respond when you feel like it, I don't like dealing with you. You post an ad you should be maintaining that ad ongoing unless you say availability hours and days. That is why people ask if something is available. When they don't reply quickly, I move on.

    And if you are buying and selling frequently it's a good idea to buy one of the pens for checking bills. There's a lot of counterfeit in the US anyway. A couple dollars is well-spent, or if it's enough money to be concerned, I'll meet them at the bank, do the transaction inside and immediately change the bills (for example $100s to $20s or vice-versa) to something else, The bank then gets the risk, not me, and they're more likely to be able to tell counterfeit.

    When I sold a vehicle we met at City Hall whereupon we transferred the title so it was out of my name and unless they have a good memory they don't have record of my address. And it was a good thing I did that because a month or two later I got a letter from a county that there were unpaid parking tickets and my license was going to be revoked. Called them up and got surrrrrrrrre, you sold it. Sure. Can you PROVE it? I told him D@mn right! Gave the day of transfer and when he checked it out called back and sheepishly said "well, I guess you WERE telling me the truth...."

    I learned a long time ago to be cautious. It's hard to trust anyone anymore.

  • rob333 (zone 7b)
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    "I will give them directions to the corner or a fake address that a GPS
    unit will get them to the corner (2000 This St. and postal code) then
    WHEN THEY GET THERE, I'll guide them the rest of the way"

    If someone did that to me, I'd turn around and go home after the "when I get there" part. I'd think they were playing some kind of game in which I want no part.

  • lucillle
    8 years ago

    Something like that happened to me. I bought some parakeets, guy gave me an address. Got there and it wasn't his house, so I called. He showed up a couple minutes later and apologized, saying that he did not want people coming to his family home for parakeets (he raises them).

    He was very nice. I would have been fine meeting at a business, without the second step of calling, but it worked out fine.

  • rob333 (zone 7b)
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I find the meeting at a neutral place far less deceptive than all the mendacity of a fake meeting spot. Couldn't nail it until you said that. You say things in a way I can understand Lucille!

  • PKponder TX Z7B
    8 years ago

    My very small town has a couple of parking spots right outside the PD set up as an 'Exchange Zone'. Very safe and no one coming to your home.

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