Grassy weed - TX St. Aug lawn: need ID (x-post Name That Plant)
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St. Aug - Brown Patch or TARR How to treat?
Comments (17)Chrisorl, I was talking to someone today about how to distinguish fungal lawn infections from chinch bugs. Aside from doing the diagnostic coffee can test where you can see the chinch bugs, usually the chinch bug patches will be in the sun (as has happened in my yard in the past). On the other hand,the fungus patches will more likely be in the shade and a result of too much water. You'll see black along the rhizomes, and the rhizomes will pull up easily. This person thought chinch bug was more likely now, but couldn't say without seeing it of course. Our HD sells peat moss if you really want to use that stuff. Gardens alive sells just about all organic stuff, but is very pricey. Nativemel, I am too cheap to pay for worm castings for my whole lawn, but if you have them, you can use them in a spreader, or in compost tea. I use cheap grains that I get at the feed store for $10-12 per 50 lbs. and apply them in a spreader. I usually use alfalfa pellets or soybean meal in the fall. I sometimes use corn gluten meal as a pre emergent, but it is expensive, so I don't use it often. This also acts as a fertilizer, so I try not to apply it too close to hot, dry weather. If you've already used the broad-spectrum pesticides and granular fertilizer, I personally would wait till the effects of these are gone before applying organic stuff. I think you'd get more microbial growth that way, but I'm just speculating. My personal opinion is that I continue to look at my lawn frequently to see where I can cut more of it out without upsetting my neighbors. My plan is to continue to make it smaller and smaller with time. I still do relish a patch of green, tho. Anna...See MoreAnyone had luck maintaining a chem free St. Aug lawn?
Comments (12)Hi Des! This is a subject of great interest and frustration to me. Although my yard is less than 10% St. Augustine grass, that still means about 3500 sq ft. of lawn. The rest of my yard I handle in a completely organic manner. The most pesticides I use elsewhere are Bt, occasional iron phosphate granules for snail control, and recently, a little diatomaceous earth. I've tried to be completely organic with the lawn, and I come close, but fall short. No problem with fertilizers. The grass responds beautifully to once yearly soybean meal or alfalfa pellets (cheap), and a mulching mower is a must to preserve nutrients. In the late winter, early spring I sometimes use corn gluten meal (expensive) as a pre-emergent (only moderately effective IMO), and a potent fertilizer/greening agent (wow, really gets green). Recently, I filled in thin areas with a little compost, but I never have enough and it seems a waste to use it on the lawn. Weeds are not a big issue for us. We are the only ones who take care of our lawn, so our little mower never goes to other lawns to pick up weed seeds. My DH is an avid weed picker in the lawn and has done a great job in ridding almost all weeds. He's developed an incredible eye for any tiny weed that might get going! Chinch bug is where the problem lies for us. Every year around late May or sometime in June we start seeing suspicious areas. I do a chinch bug test (flooding an area with water to see if you see them scampering up the blades). Where I can prove to myself that there is a problem, I spot treat the area with a several foot margin with a product called allectus. This is in no way organic, although it seems one of the less evil choices. It is a combination of imidacloprid (what we put on our dog for flea prevention), and bifenthrin (a synthetic pyrethroid). Both chemicals are toxic to bees (better to apply it in the evening when bees are less active), and bifenthrin is toxic to fish. The application rate is very low (which I like), and the likelihood to get in the ground water is very low (good too). Last year I did well with only spot treating and only once during the summer. This summer I had less area, but ended up doing it twice. I hate using this. I keep thinking of ways I can get rid of more grass (HOA is a factor, but we also like a bit of green for us and the dog, throwing a football, etc.). There are times of the year the lawn looks pretty good (spring and fall), but right now the lawn looks kind of thin and tired. I'm sure I have other problems in it I really don't care to know about because I don't want to treat them (fungus?). It is presentable though. I look at other lawns in the neighborhood that have lawn care/ chemical services treating them on a regular, year-round basis, and some look better than ours, others look worse. I am still learning, and each year I hope I can chip away at more and more lawn. Anna...See MoreGrassy weed - Texas St. Augustine lawn: need ID
Comments (10)Thanks, all, for weighing in. Yup, NHBabs, this does appear sedge-like (or nutsedge-like, which is the only sedge I'm all too familiar with). I'm fairly certain it's not nutsedge as the root structure is different. So, gyr_falcon, will happily forego those lucky stars today! :) Probably not kyllinga -- one article describes these having waxy leaves, and mine are definitely nutsedgy glossy. jekeesl -- I'm always very careful to use a roots-and-all approach when weeding (Mom and Dad taught us well -- we kids spent many, many a weekend pulling weeds in the yard!), as opposed to plucking the tops (which I have indeed read may stimulate growth). Because they're interspersed in the lawn, I can't use an herbicide. And leaving them untouched wasn't an option as it was apparent the St. Aug was struggling to gain territory. I will run this past the County Extension -- thanks again!...See MoreCan anyone identify this grass growing in my St Augustine lawn
Comments (10)My house was on the back of a 1-acre lot on the edge of town. The only tall grass was back by the house, so you had to stop and look kinda hard to see that the grass was that tall. If you were going to be offended, you had to stop and make a big deal out of it. When it's all the same height, it still looks manicured, especially at a distance. Well it turns out there was an ordinance against eyesore lots. The ordinance had words to the effect that you could not have piles of junk with weeds, grass, or plants growing 18 inches high. We all know what this ordinance is there for - so people will not toss their junk on the street and let grass and weeds grow up through it. I did not have piles of junk. I could walk down my street and find at least 5 other houses with piles of trash and weeds growing up through them for 6 months or more. The problem with my house is that it used to belong to a prominent lady in local politics and the church. She was one of those "GET OFF MY LAWN" people who took exceptional pride in the appearance of the yard. She passed away and it went to hell. A guy bought the house to rent the rooms and I bought from him. He let half the lawn die completely. All this happened so fast that the neighbors and friends of the original lady seriously resented my "letting the lawn go." So I was selected for one-time enforcement of the ordinance. I showed up at a city hall meeting and convinced them they needed to print a lot more signs and enforce the rules everywhere in town. They did that and quickly overwhelmed the enforcement employees. I also took issue with the word, plants, in the ordinance. Strict wording of the ordinance would prohibit any plants taller than 18 inches. Everyone has plants taller than that. I started mowing the lawn down to 17 inches to test my skills at passive aggression. A year later they rewrote the ordinance taking the plant/grass/weed height down to 12 inches. So I mowed at 11 inches. Mowing that high takes a string trimmer and actually goes pretty fast - much faster than mowing with a mower. So it was nice for awhile and then not so much fun, but I did learn a lot about lawn care....See Morejaviwa
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