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Is there more than 1 Sombrueil on the market?
Comments (16)I feel like someone's naughty nine year old older brother whispering, "There is no Santa Claus." A label on a rose outside Paris doesn't make any identification any more accurate than this: "It's the same as the one with the label outside Paris." Whether either is the real 'Mlle de Sombreuil' is the question we need to ask. If we reach a consensus as to a name, yes, that's a help. You need to have studied the roses labeled in that and other European gardens to understand why I say that, and that's with all due respect for the great garden collections everywhere (and maybe all collections of anything everywhere). We all have labels on roses in our own gardens and know how they evaporate before our eyes. We all know that garden gnomes comes out at night and switch labels. We know that garden elves steal the remaining labels. We know that armies marched through the capitols of Europe several times between the late 1800's and the mid-1900's. Armies don't much care about labels on roses. Draw your own conclusions about the meaning of rose labels in gardens in Europe, in the USA, in the hands of US nurseries. To my mind, it is one more piece of evidence, but it is not the same as simple fact. An enormous collection of more than 3200 varieties and 13,000 plants would take at least one person full time to keep the database and labeling straight. I'm going to make a wild guess that didn't always happen. Rose names fall of the rails all the time. We need to keep our wits about us and refuse to suspend our powers of reason to accept a label when common characteristics of the class are missing. P.S. Maybe it is the real Mlle de Sombreuil. The original source material on this rose isn't very accessible to the English speaker....See MoreParma more tender than I thought/Marie Louise source?
Comments (8)Thanks for the response, Thierry! I'll have to see what happens if we have another cold spell without as dry of air - maybe it won't react as badly then. But I still have the rest of winter to worry about, since temperatures here can go as low as -18°C or a little colder in a bad year. I have decided to take at least a cutting indoors as insurance. I'm not sure, when looking at a Parma and an odorata at the same time, if it would be possible to derive one from the other in a single mutation - there are enough differences that it seems Parmas must come at least partly from a different species altogether, although not too distantly related. The leaves of Parmas do look something like V. alba, but then that species must be much hardier given its range in Europe. I have my 'Feline' growing next to a 'King of the Doubles', which granted is sometimes alleged to be a hybrid of V. suavis but follows closely enough to straight V. odorata to me, and the differences are obvious. The Parma has an extra luster to its foliage which has a subtly different shape (narrower arrowhead-shape rather than a wider heart-shape), a much taller, domed plant shape (the odorata/Russian violet seems more flattened as a rosette), with the Parma also having longer petioles and thinner runners. Its wilting after exposure to 28°F in addition to stories of Arab violet cultivation guides demonstrating a long subtropical violet horticulture makes me wonder if we shouldn't be looking to the wetter places of southwest Asia such as the fertile mountains of Yemen for the Parma's wild relatives. I understand that the whole of North Africa and the Middle East had a wetter climate several thousand years ago, and it's possible that former ranges of plants without contemporary wild relatives have disappeared altogether - the musk rose, Rosa moschata, being another case in point. I doubt that every nook and cranny has been explored, though, given the long-standing political and social instability of that region. I do wonder, sometimes, if my double violet back home couldn't be some sort of hybrid of the two, since it gives off a strange aura that isn't quite like any of the other odorata types I've seen or grown, and some of its odd features seem somehow more in keeping with the Parma type (longer petioles, more domed habit, plus a sweeter scent - recalling my fragrance terminology, it lacks the "horse" note I notice in some others - but I don't know if there are no other odoratas with similar aromatic profiles because cultivars are scarce and expensive here). It must, of course, have a good dose of odorata to survive the harsh northern winters; although it does sometimes struggle with them, yet I had always blamed a virus or lack of thick snow for that. And yet to look only at the flowers, you'd think it was just the plain old Double Blue odorata of centuries ago, but that cultivar isn't around here in the U.S. to acquire for a real comparison. I'm not sure I could get violets from a British nursery easily, since for nearly every other nursery there I always run across very strongly worded statements that they do not ship to the United States. If any nurseries do send overseas, they definitely aren't saying so on their websites... The festival in Toulouse... oh, I would love to (even if I don't speak any French)! I will let you know if I can manage either the time or the money for such an adventure - and thank you for the invitation, no matter what happens. It's very sweet of you :-) Stefan...See Moreanyone use more than 2 cabinet colors in 1 kitchen?
Comments (8)Thanks for the photo mahlgold! I love the grey and black together. I think what I am not sure about is how to break down the color usage. I will have a stand alone pantry on one wall between two glass doors and a huge hutch/snack station on another wall. My kitchen is a U and I will have base cabinets following this shape (double wall oven cab and fridge cab at either end, sink base at bottom). However, I will only have two upper cabinets (either side of sink window) plus wood hood over cooktop (next to ovens). So I see many possibilties of how to parcel out the different colors, just not sure where it will make the most impact....See MoreContinue paying down debt or save more for down payment?
Comments (14)Thanks for all of the feedback, folks. Renting is still certainly an option, but that $8,000 tax credit keeps whispering to me. I don't need the $8,000 tax credit to make this "work", but it would certainly be nice. As far as additional expenses that come along with homeownership, I must say that if I stay in this area, I'll be paying approximately $1500/mo + utilities, along with whatever outrageous pet fees and pet rents they will add on. For what it's worth, I've got money in accounts I'd rather not touch right now, but I can access. I also have my debts covered by insurance that kicks in if I'm disabled or unemployed. I've got a sizeable amount of available credit (the balance are small, but the credit limits aren't), in case of a terrible emergency. When it comes down to it, I've got more than enough cash/cheap credit around to tackle any catastrophe worth dealing with on a $130K property. I'm an insurance freak, so I don't have any debts that won't be paid if something happens to me, and even the pets have veterinary insurance, so a veterinary emergency won't make me choose between paying my bills or paying the vet. Again, for what it's worth, I'm focusing on houses without pools (don't want the maintenance expense), I'll be working from home (no commute/minimal gas expenses), and I am also focusing on houses new enough that everything won't start to break as soon as I move in. I've wanted to buy a home for years (but lived in an absurdly high COLA area), and I really feel like I've thought this through as much as I can without making sure I'm getting a reality check from everyone. Short of saving up for years to pay cash for a home, I'm not sure I'm in such a bad position to buy a house. With that said, I don't want to be the poster who just posts to get everyone to agree with her, regardless of the facts. So, I really appreciate the feedback. In my situation, with the pets, it just seems like I'm throwing away so much money on pet deposits, pet fees (nonrefundable), and absurd rents to continue doing the "sensible" thing and renting until all the moons align and I can pay cash for a huge portion of a home. One of my biggest considerations is the fact that I could take a 50% pay cut and make out. The mortgage/utilities on these houses = still less than I've paid in rent in years (and at much lower salaries). At what point does, "I really really want a yard and a dog" come into play? I get the impression that, for some locations/situations, renting will always be the most "sensible" solution, but then why do people even bother to buy homes? So, really, when do the scales start to tip in favor of buying a home vs. renting a home? Thanks, all! I've got a lot to think about....See Moresail_away
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