Ugh, the edit button seems to be gone for the main post, there are some redaction errors, please bear with them, when (if) the edit button decides to come back, I'll fix them. If you have questions, be welcome to express them.

Thank you for the very clear description and the link to the rose anatomy. So, the purpose of the balloon is to create a tight seal?

Wow Aaron, that's really cool. Great presentation. I should try that with some of my rarer roses before I lose any more of them!

Jasmine, exactly!, it is also easier to handle and secure the balloon tail to the cane than to try and cover the bare hole, perpendicular with the cane with the tape. It also prevents there being direct contact of moisture with the tape, which would dull the stickiness and may thus detach.

Beth, yes, it is quite easy and inexpensive! if you're having a hard time with traditional cuttings of some negligent variety, this is something worth a shot!

Thanks and congrats :) Love that color of Midnight Blue.

yes thanks for sharing, I also really like the dark purple of Midnight Blue.

Hello!

This is really something! Just to see if I understand ... you got the plant to grow roots from the end of the stem? TBS is the same as just the end of a stem after one cuts off a bud? Is that right? (Previously I had mostly heard of air layering in which people wound the stem somewhere in the middle, and wrap the wounded part in moss, and so on. This new to me.)

And what a beautiful flower!! I'd never heard of that rose.

Hi, Need2SeeGreen!

At first I did not understand your question, but I've realized now that I may have used a confusing term to refer to the part of the plant I meant.

As I understand it, a Terminal Bud Scar is a scar left by side buds that have fallen after the main one continues to form a branch. After this, what you end up with should look like the diagram.

Please notice that a terminal bud is different to a terminal bud scar, you want to find a Terminal Bud Scar.

Other terms that I found for this are "growth rings" or "annular rings" but looking this up brings up mostly results of the rings formed by a tree's bark and from which you can tell it's age... which we do not care for much at the moment.

There doesn't seem to be much of a solid term to refer to it, so I found TBS the most appliable.

TBS can be appreciated as several "stripes" or "bands" that ,in roses, are usually located where an older cane branches out into newer stems, usually, every one of those has their own set of growth rings/TBS right where it is attached to the older cane.

The way you describe air-layering has possibilities of working, but when you do it like that you're just getting the peat to make contact with maybe two or tree nodes, a TBS is actually a lot of nodes squirmed together, every node anywhere in the plant is capable of developing "callus" which is the undifferentiated tissue that can turn to roots if the surrounding environment is in fact, appropriate for roots (damp, dark, and not too cold nor too hot). By using a TBS instead of a single or a couple nodes, you have more chances of getting a node to form callus, since there are many more nodes in that area.

I hope to have answered your question, if not, please rephrase it and I'd be happy to help you.

And yes! Midnight Blue is not only pretty to the eyes, the scent is really something! It is usually described as clove, but I and several other people I have shown it to think it is a lot like agua de jamaica, (which in some recipes actually has clove in it, but well, there's more to it).

Seeingreen, I really wish it was like that year round, on the hotter months it will open to a more reddish, wine color, but at least the great scent is still there.

Hi this is very interesting .. could you take pictures of what these growth rings look like? I don't remember seeing that.

And I guess you're saying to wound at this 'growth ring' area or not wound?

What peat moss did you use? MG is the one commonly found here on Oahu.

I don't understand where the balloon comes into place either?

I've had 2 out of 10 attempts in air layering with a an IBA gel and traditional wounding of the internode section.

Any insight would be awesome !

Roseace thank you so much for describing detailing your process so well! This is so fascinating! I'm going to have to try it later in the fall or winter once it gets cooler here. What an amazing process!

Thank you, @Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley. Can you believe in the 7 years since i did this i haven't done it again? I got such stellar results and yet i didn't wind up revisiting it, crazy how that is. And the two vigorous plants i got from it wound up dying when summer came, they charred, cause i hadn't moved them from the 8oz cups. I cursed the sun the entire summer lol.

I have a Hot Cocoa currently that has been reduced to just 1 spindly cane. I think i should give this method a go to try and salvage it. I still have the very same bag of water baloons sitting in a drawer in my room lol.

In those 7 years i also managed to get me some of the specifically made propagation pods they talked about in the other thread, they did not yield as good results when i used them, perhaps i didn't do it properly.

I hope you had a better Christmas than i, not to be a sob story, but i got laid off in Novemeber and i'm struggling a little, besides the fact that Christams doesn't really feel that special nowadays either way.

Oh well, part of it all. I wish you a wonderful new year too and if you would like to try this and have questions let me know. It's prime season to do it. I could even try to make a video.