Refinancing Question
10 years ago
Featured Answer
Sort by:Oldest
Comments (8)
- 10 years ago
- 10 years ago
Related Discussions
Refinancing
Comments (13)Hi qs777, I have this same conversation with my friend who is a loan processor and I know she doesn't make $300+ per file. There's a significant difference between the COST of a job, and the compensation of the employee. Your friend may not be compensated a flat $300 per file processed, or nothing... but in most cases if you took her annual compensation plus the overhead she consumes as an employee, and divided it by the number of files she actually completed, that $300 fee is probably too low. Then how am I able to get those deducted? That's easy; "shell game!" Just shift things around (again, refer to the links I posted above in this thread.) It doesn't matter how magical you might think your negotiating skills are, the mortgage fee structure is sufficiently complex that at the closing table we can always make sure nobody is getting stiffed. And why can't I whittle these fees down to my best interest? See my linked post, above. Your *ONLY* real hope of getting treated right is choosing a fiduciary-acting broker (which I see is what you have indeed done.) My suggestion of one lender's fee was just so they can divvy up however they want to instead of calling them everything under the sun - not to let the system blind me. It would make it easier for borrowers to compare. But that is ALREADY provided on the Good Faith Estimate, at the bottom line, called "total closing costs estimated." The *ONLY* reason everything is exploded out into a line item basis of disclosure is because the regulators have demanded it in theoretical DEFENSE of your best interests. If mortgage bankers and brokers had our way, the paperwork for residential deals would be just like (the unregulated) commercial deals... maybe 3-4 pages max, with a very simple and short balance sheet of total costs, terms & rates. Unfortunately, our regulators are heading the opposite direction, and you can actually look forward to GREATER complexity & confusion in the coming year or so as HUD rolls out the "new and improved, expanded" Good Faith Estimates. These are threatened to be 3-4 pages each. I just don't like people being taken advantage of with a high rate and high fees when they are excellent candidates and may not know any better. I agree... but the ONLY effective solution is education. Industry constriction simply hurts the GOOD players, and the sophisticated borrowers & investors. If the problem is uneducated people endangering themselves, then we need a mandatory educational system that issues licensing for the privilege (like drivers licensing.) THEN we can nip the problem in the butt by telling lenders that their NOTES (borrowing agreements) will be invalid and uncollectible if they make a loan to an unlicensed consumer. If a consumer gets the required education to be licensed to borrow (i.e. "drive") and still drives themselves over a cliff, then society has done their best efforts and no further bailouts are required. Cheers, Dave Donhoff Leverage Planner...See MoreRefinancing a VA Loan
Comments (3)OK here's what I found," VA does not require an appraisal, any income or employment verifications, no credit report and no termite report, yet the mortgage must have been paid as agreed for the last twelve (12) months and must be up to date at the time of refinancing." Does this mean that we need to have paid for 12 months previously, or that there couldn't be any late payments for the past 12 months. I know it may seem obvious to you all, but it's not put in a very direct way for me to "get it". We are up to date with payments and have not had any late payments since we purchased in October, but we haven't owned the home for 12 months. Anybody?...See MoreCluesless about refinancing
Comments (9)Hi xminion, OK then... given your details provided, I backward calculated that you've got a loan amount around $115,000-ish. At that level, having all your closing costs rolled into interest rate premium (going "no points") will end up with a rate so high it probably wont' be all that worth the trouble. If you're *REALLY* certain you'll have no reason to re-access your home equity sooner than at least 8-10 years, then I would recommend having your loan officer crunch the numbers for you by financing the buydown discount points up front. Any points you prepay up front will generate an interest savings that will accumulate to more than the actual upfront costs by your 4th to 5th year. If you DO NOT feel it is worthwhile to plan on staying in the same loan for at least 8-10 years, then you'll have at least that long of a savings protection by using a 5 yr ARM instead (and accumulating your savings off the premium 30 FRM to cover any potential payment increase, if that were ever to happen.) This strategy will save you money for 8-9 years in the WORST case of increasing rates... and much longer in any scenario less than "worst case." Hope that helps, Dave Donhoff Strategic Equity & Leverage Planner...See MoreRefinancing Question.....
Comments (2)Hi Missymar, A) No, you are not obligated to the refi at all. You can walk away (call the loan officer to let them know, though...) B) Frankly, you kind of took on a silly exercise... as getting a new non-owner mortgage on your rental (in order to re-use your VA eligibility) would have been more expensiveto you than to simply keep the owner-occupied priced VA loan in place on the rental and get a conventional primary-residence mortgage on the new place. FORTUNATELY the offer to buythe rental saved you from making that mistake... but *IF THAT DEAL FALLS THROUGH*... now you know to leave the VA financing just as it is, and get a regular conventional loan on the new place. Cheers, Dave Donhoff Strategic Equity & Mortgage Planner...See More- 10 years ago
- 10 years ago
- 10 years ago
- 10 years ago
- 10 years agolast modified: 10 years ago
Related Stories

REMODELING GUIDES10 Things to Ask Your Contractor Before You Start Your Project
Ask these questions before signing with a contractor for better communication and fewer surprises
Full Story
REMODELING GUIDESHome Building: The Case for Cautious Optimism
Ben Bernanke's speech at the 2012 International Builders Show: Gray clouds and silver lining
Full Story
HOUZZ TOURSHouzz Tour: A Creekside Cabin Opens to the Views
With a modern addition featuring expansive windows, a rustic 1930s cabin opens its arms wider to its Northern California woodland setting
Full Story
CONTRACTOR TIPSBuilding Permits: When a Permit Is Required and When It's Not
In this article, the first in a series exploring permit processes and requirements, learn why and when you might need one
Full Story
MY HOUZZHouzz TV: A Couple’s Garage Becomes Their Chic New Home
Portland, Oregon, homeowners find freedom in a city-approved garage home with DIY industrial flair
Full Story
REMODELING GUIDESWhere to Splurge, Where to Save in Your Remodel
Learn how to balance your budget and set priorities to get the home features you want with the least compromise
Full Story
HOUZZ TOURSHouzz Tour: Having Fun With a Half-Buried House
Layers of dirt help create energy efficiency and an unusual look on a steep slope in Washington state
Full Story
SMALL HOMESHouzz Tour: Rolling With Simplicity in a Tiny House on Wheels
Just 240 square feet, this California home encourages efficient living — but there’s still room for yoga
Full Story
FLOORSHow to Paint Your Hardwood Floors
Know how to apply nail polish? Then you can give your wooden floors a brand-new look
Full StorySponsored
Central Ohio's Trusted Home Remodeler Specializing in Kitchens & Baths
lascatx