Can I get the scoop on Abraham Darby and Heritage?
gibsongirl74
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Do I want 'Abraham Darby'?
Comments (12)I'm leaning a bit away from Abraham Darby at this point. If I can grow Constance Spry as a climber here (I had read in the north it would be more a shrub than a climber)- I have the perfect spot for her. I've never dealt with rust before but have come toe to toe with blackspot...and lost. I guess my main problem is that I don't really have the perfect spot for it. The areas where that size rose would go are a little less than ideal (one's in a back corner kind of hidden away and the other gets a little less than ideal sun and is where our snow from the driveway gets piled near). I may have just talked myself out of it....See MoreWhat Should I plant Between Louis Philippe and Abraham darby?
Comments (17)Gosh, what great suggestions! I have a Mrs. Oakley Fisher in a pot. I'm wondering if because she is an older hybrid tea she just might do O.K. on her own roots. Actually, if a rose can't hack the own root thing, there are plenty of others that can. Kronprincessin is planted by Cramoisi in another bed. It's a very small baby but looks so pretty with the red. I do have a band of Souvenir de St. Annes, so when it blooms I'll see what I think. I was discouraged today and was going to plop Louis in a pot until I figured out what to do, but my husband said that he liked him where he was, and that he would be striking against the white house. Right now he is only at the toddler stage-if that. I hope he is a fast grower. I'm trying to plant STURDY, but pretty roses on the west side of my house, because I've learned the hard way that what goes there will have to have the ability to withstand whatever our hurricaine seasons dish out. It seems the twiggy bushes let most of the wind go through without whipping them around too much. I put Madame Lombard on the corner of the house near Louis, because the other one I had never had a problem with wind. Probably because she is built like a tank. I like to mix colors, prettier that way IMO, as long as they don't jar each other. I wonder if Hollyhocks will do well here. I'm planning on researching companion plants so that once all the roses are in place I can tuck a few here and there. If any of you know where I can start my research let me know, hopefully with a place that knows Florida. It's too bad all you ladies don't live closer. It would be so great if we could actually look at each others gardens. Sandy...See MoreAny Pictures of 'Heritage' and 'Abraham Darby'?
Comments (4)I've got mine growing on a rebar teepee. Here's maybe 2 to 3 months after planting last year: Here it is this early this spring: Later on this spring Spring: Taken mid to late summer. It's between flushes, but you can get an idea of the shape. It's the rose on the teepee with the birdhouse. Hope these help. Eric...See More'heritage' versus 'abraham darby'
Comments (13)1. Heritage is a continuous bloomer, Abe takes a rest in mid season. 2. They are equally fragrant, but their fragrance are different 3. Heritage's flowers last 2 days at the most, Abe's twice as long. 4. Flower forms are different - it's a matter of taste. Abe's are much bigger (the largest I have ever measured was 6 1/2 inches across), but Heritage bears large clusters. Abe's flowers are more informal, with slightly wavy petals, Heritage flowrs are uniformly cup shaped, neatly arranged. 5. I have the two side by side, and Heritage does not get black spot in our garden, whereas Abe does - there is about a 50% foliage afflicted at the peak of the black spot season. 6. Both are vigorous growers - they reach up to 6 feet, and likel will get taller without pruning. Heritage is a narrower bush than Abe, which tends to sprawl more. 7. Heritage holds it's blooms upright (it's one of the few DA's that do not have flowers that bow!), whereas Abe's flowers do droop (I think because the flowers are so big and heavy). 8. Heritage has relatively few thorns, whereas Abe has quite fearsome thorns. They are hook shaped - all the better to grab your skin! 9. Abe has great hips (not the human kind). In conclusion, there is no choice between the two - you need both. And why not? I thought Olga has the best picture of a big bush of Abe?...See Moremudpie7
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