To prune or not to prune (this gigantic climber)
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Comments (1)First of all, I don't know this rose. I have recently planted Papa-Gontier-the-shrub, still a baby. I know nothing whatsoever about the climber. But for what it is worth, and that means possibly not anything at all, I am moved to share my experience with 'Sombreuil', the climber that is sometimes called 'Colonial White'. I had it on an arbor for a number of years. For several years it had a few (3? 4?) very, very long canes, much like the ones you describe on Papa Gontier Climbing. The time came to re-stain the arbor with wood preservative, and we simply could not do it with this thorny creature in place. I cut it down to about 18 inches from the ground. I know, brutal. I did not know if the rose would survive or not. But to my happy astonishment, it exploded with a dozen new canes. It looked like an octopus! Far more robust than it had ever been before. Now I have no idea at all if Papa Gontier Climbing would do the same with this treatment, or shrivel up and die, or continue on as usual. I only offer it as an example of blind luck. (So of course the very next year I took Sombreuil out and replaced it with a grapevine. It is a very nice grapevine with very delicious grapes. Yum.) Folly...See MorePruning Fourth of July Climber
Comments (13)If you have the longest canes go up vertically they'll probably sprout horizontal branches going at roughly right angles out to whereever the most sun is. The horizontal branches coming out from main canes can get quite long, 5' or more on mine. They come out at rather abrupt angles and are not particularly flexible, but produce the flowers. So it sort of depends how much profile you want. Hopefully the sunny side is the side away from the house so the laterals grow that way. 50 lb fishing line--is that going to hold up in a strong wind (or a modest wind)? Is there any way you can add a panel of wrought iron extending the height of the handrailing up to the bottom of the balcony? That would give you a lot of support to work with....See Morepruned climber rose
Comments (6)Different kinds of roses require different kinds of pruning. Climbers are supposed to get tall--after all, they're climbers--and yours evidently took being cut back hard unkindly and is now sulking. I pruned my climbing Tea 'Noella Nabonnand' too drastically once, and it sat and refused to grow for the next two or three years. Finally it made up its mind to put out canes again. If you want your climbing rose you'll probably just have to practice patience. Make sure it's fed and watered and mulched, and wait. Even among climbing roses different kinds have different needs, but in general I find it works to cut out the oldest canes and tie in the new ones, shortening them somewhat if necessary. Dead canes can be pruned out at any time. Exactly when and how to prune will depend on your climate and growing conditions, and on the rose variety....See MorePruning climber advice
Comments (10)in my MI .... which you arent in ... i used to trim all my roses down to about 6 inches.. so they could fit under rose cones for winter ... all but the huge ramblers and natives ... mind you ... there is no reason why your can not be hard pruned back ... if that is what you want to do ... but i have no clue when to do that in z7 ..... i would do it.. a few weeks short of ground freeze ... when there was no doubt of full dormancy ... i also used to get many of my roses mail order in april or so ... and this is what they looked like ... first 2 pix .... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=roses+dormant+mail+order&t=ffcm&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images and that is what yours probably looked like.. when some local nursery took delivery about 6 weeks before your growing season started.. and potted them up.. and leafed them out in a greenhouse .... for your purchase ... so you could do the same thing ... as a pruning goal ... so pruning isnt a big deal .. you decide on a goal ... and you act towards accomplishing it ... as noted.. we dont really prune.. just for the heck of it ... but what might be a bigger deal in year 3.. in the same pot.... is whether your potting media is wearing out... and the media.. being a water management system of sorts ... and as it ages.. it doesnt manage the water the same ... so you might want to repot it .. .and if you are going to repot it.. it will be much easier to do.. if you prune it down like those pix above ... so you dont end up losing a lot of blood in the process .. lol ... but again.. timing of doing that will be important ... wish your pic was not sideways to me... hard to study on a laptop ... ken...See MoreSoFL Rose z10
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