Double convection ovens or single and a steamer oven?
Megan Binsfeld
8 years ago
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Double wall oven vs. Double wall oven with microwave/convection
Comments (4)I have had the Kitchen Aid KEMS308S for 5 years. I had not noticed that the microwave power was low. I doubt that power will be an issue. I assume that many ovens have cool down features. They are not running when the door is open. It is ture that the fan makes some noise, but it isn't that noticable. When I originally purchased this oven I had been intending to get individual ovens, but it turned out that the individual ovens had been discontinued. I see no difference between your choices because they are all double ovens and when one fails, they both fail wheras individual ovens could be replaced individually. I have not heard of the microwave section showing a high rate of failure. You didn't even mention the advantage of the micro/convection. It is not just a microwave, but a real convection oven with a broiling (sort of) element. It is not a speed oven because it does not microwave and heat at the same time. Actually it CAN microwave and crisp via the broil element. Anyway it is a small second oven that can bake a pie or bread (or a small trey of cookies I suppose). It heats far faster than the regular large convection oven because it is small. I find it very useful. The only problem is it is occasionally in use when I would want to reheat a cup of coffee etc. I keep an old microwave in the garage for those cases. While I hope I have relieved your concerns, I believe that there IS an issue. I have had no problem with my oven, and it has been several years since the Main contingent of problems: similar models have encountered a higher than normal thermal fuse blowing during the large oven self cleaning cycle. Unfortunately, the fuse is located on the back of the oven and is a $50 item and shuts everything down. Of course, most people see no problem (myself included) and the problem is certainly due to excessive heat behind the cabinet that could probably relieved by making sure that there is a little more open space back there since you are still installing cabinets? In any case, this is probably a general issue. Other ovens have failed on self clean cycles. At this point, many people concider the self clean to be a marketing ploy and don't use it. Perhaps we just don't make enough spattering roasts, but I have easily wiped down the main oven. It wasn't stuck on hard. Perhaps the surface has anti stick coating? My self cleans have been done mainly to test the thermal fuse problem. By the way, the microwave interior is stainless steel and IS much harder to clean. In fact, that last sentence is probably my most important piece of information. I imagine it would apply to other convection microwaves....See MoreDouble oven range vs single plus convection MW?
Comments (10)HeY warmfridge, yes I use both convection and microwave to do the tater. The Elux speed oven sets those automatically. You "choose potatoes" from the menu, then it asks, "How many", I always answer 2 even thou it is 1 (usually very large tater). It then chooses the temp, the preheat time and baking time, and tells you to remove food. You push "Start", it preheats(takes about 7 mins), then it beeps, and tells you to place the food in the oven. It then takes 7 mins and 40 secs to do the tater, again beeps when it is done. I'm not sure whether it is using "convection and MW" or just using the "regular baking elements + Mw". The tater always comes out with a nice browned skin, and done perfectly inside. You can see this for yourself if you google "The great potato race". Mojavean and I had a contest, He with his Miele, and I the Elux, results were very similar as well as time (I think I "barely edged him out) but if you watch it, you will see His did not preheat, and He had to set parameters as far as temp,time (Nuking and convection) etc. Except for reheating things and making my coffee, I pretty much use the "Combi mode" for everything, as like many folks here "Grey Meat", is not all that appetizing to me, and using the "combi mode" Elux calls it "Basic" (Under the speed cook options)I've done Turkey thighs,stuffed porkchops etc etc and been happy with the results. The other option under Speed Cook is "Recipes" where the Speed oven had 134 "built in recipes". HTH's Warmfridge!!! Gary...See MoreDouble Gaggeneau Oven vs. Single with Microwave/Convection
Comments (3)We have double ovens (Thermador 30" convection) and use both very very frequently. We also have a cheap small counter microwave and use the minute+ button exclusively - for the occasional reheating, defrosting, melting: never cooking. This past Saturday we had two families over for dinner. Home made pizza for five kids (both ovens on three stones) to get the kids fed then plated dinner for the six adults including roasted root veggies, fresh focaccia, baked dessert (all in the ovens). My wife and I actually uttered the words "can't imagine going back to a single oven again". Really. Sure we could survive with a single oven - but I often utilize two. And this is my first house, and my first good kitchen - I've only had cheap econo 30" gas or electric ranges my previous 40 years so it's not like I've been spoiled. Even when not using both ovens at full tilt, I'm often using one at warming temp or for proofing dough - you find productive uses for the extra capacity. It's your money, and your cooking style, but give it careful consideration - because two ovens can be a great thing to have. And microwaves - they kind of suck for 'cooking' - so maybe look at a more versatile appliance if you don't go with the second oven. Good luck....See MoreDouble wall oven and microwave or wall oven and convection microwave
Comments (4)I agree with Jpmom that you don't want a MW on top of a double oven - it's just too high. However, although she does not like a MW drawer, many people on this forum adore theirs (note that all MW drawers are made by Sharp, so if you decide to get one, no need to pay up for a different brand name, as it is just a rebadge). Is there no other location in your kitchen? Do you have a pantry where you could keep the MW? There was just a recent thread on this MW placement topic. http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/3833699/placement-of-a-microwave?n=42 I am not a fan of the oven/microwave combos, as I think there are too many compromises in both in order to combine them. Just MHO. If you are doing a major kitchen remodel, you might want to re-think the cooktop in the island, mostly because how are you going to exhaust it. This topic has been covered a zillion times on this forum, but the upshot is if you care about good exhaust, you should have your cooktop on a wall, so that the exhaust capabilities are not hampered by trying to exhaust over an island setup. On the other hand, many people are absolutely fine with poor or no exhaust, and perhaps that is you, so never mind....See Moremrspete
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