Raised Floor House - Sealing
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Comments (6)You wouldn't need cement board if the surface is somewhat even and if the thinset sticks. I would spot grind the surface in a few places to help adhesion if there is no exposed concrete. You can get tile for a buck or less per sq ft. With thinset and grout you may be at about $1.50 per sq ft if you do it yourself. There is a good chance you would be fine doing nothing but you would not have peace of mind. My wife would not eat anything grown in tar but she worries about everything. If thinset sticks you could probably skip the tile and just stucco. I use Rapid Set stucco mix available from Home Depot sometimes as a sealing coat. It is not a portland cement based product. It has almost no shrinkage, a short work time and is very waterproof (resistant). I doubt it would react with the tar coat as most sealing paints would. Zeuspaul...See MoreInsulation under raised house
Comments (7)there are many ways to insulate raised floors. But for it to be effective you need to stop air leakage from the crawl space to the living space, insulate the floor and then stop air movement through the insulation from the crawlspace. When air moves over or through insulation it robs it of its insulating value. One method is to foam...it seales the leakage at the floor, adds an insulating value and stops air movement through the insulation.It really does 3 jobs in one. To save cost, you add labor. Someone to prep the floor prior to insulation, caulking of wire penetrations, oversized holes under tubs, plumbing penetrations, etc. Then the install of the insulation of choice..I'll use batt insulation in this example. Once batts are installed correctly..meaning well fitted, not compressed, no gaps..then an air barrier should be added to stop the air movement across the insulation. I generally recommend foam board..nailed with button cap nails to the undersides of the floor joists. Caulk foam board around perimeter of house, tape all seams for an air tight seal. I have seen batts with tyvek, batts with felt paper, but the only install I have done besides spray foam is the one I described above. This under floor install is about the only time I recommend foam..it is just too_costly for the average home owner, add extended payback..it is just not cost effective. But in sealing floors..foam is the easiest install. best of luck...See MoreSeal air leak in old home
Comments (15)My basement laundry room has always been cold enough to hang beef in during the winter. A few months ago, I discovered part of why it was so cold (and so linty.). The vent duct pipe had either separated or never been connected. I suspect they were never connected because the lint problem has been going on for years. Got them connected and taped--heckuva' job as the disconnect was up on the sill behind a heat duct. Not much room to work in. Anyway, immediate improvement. Late this summer, I was doing a mini remodel in the laundry. Replaced the exterior louvered dryer discharge with a more energy efficient one and sprayed expanding foam around the exhaust pipe on the interior side.. Then discovered where an old abandoned hose bib was and removed that and sealed the hole with more foam. Moving over about 24" I found more gaping holes--around the working hose bib, abound the entry point of the electrical service, around the cable and phone penetrations and around two Romex exit points. All this within about 36". Freaking sieve, it was. Now, I'm working on a cantilevered framed bay on the front of the house. Had to pull some of the rim joist off due to rot. The insulation in the floor of the cantilever was two very thin bats of fiberglass that were both laying of the plywood nailed to the bottom of the joists, not attached up on the floor where it would do some good. And the joist bays were open across the entire basement ceiling. So I have wedged 2" styrofoam at the sill plate, friction fit and spray foamed to seal and lock it in place. Made a 6" stryrofoam sandwich, wedged, foamed and cleats on the joists to hold it next to the floor. Installed some vents in the underside of the bay so the framing can breathe. The bay has been ripped down to the studs on the exterior. Consist of just framing materials, 2x4 sandwich, with a lot of gaps and cracks in between. No house wrap or felt paper. At a couple of points, standing inside the house, I could see actual daylight between the framing members. More caulk, expanding foam...that's where I'm at. Next, I have to remove the windows, sheath, install house wrap, flash the sills (never done), reinstall the windows.... Kinda' long story and I know you don't have a rim joist but the point is that you have to do a lot of investigating to find the sources of drafts and train your mind to recognize suspicious looking situations....See MoreNeed to raise bathroom floor to meet hall floor and add tile
Comments (13)Durock's website says to install on wood. But I found this info... Manufacturer Recommendations James Hardie Industries, makers of HardieBacker®, and USG, makers of Durock®, indicate that their respective cement backer boards should not be installed over concrete. James Hardie: HardieBacker specifications specifically exclude concrete as a base for installation. USG: Durock does not expressly exclude concrete, but the material is specified only for minimum 5/8-inch exterior-grade plywood or OSB. One source reports that USG will not officially validate the Durock-to-concrete attachment simply because they have not tested it. The lack of testing may be simply because so few customers express a need for applying Durock to concrete. There is no problem with the two materials being compatible. The issue, as Bud Cline of The Floor Pro says, is more about how to attach the cement board to the concrete. A powder-actuated nailer is out of the question since nail depth would be impossible to regulate. Concrete screws, Cline says, have heads that are too small to hold down the cement board. His recommendation: Work with the concrete surface so that it is strong enough and porous enough to accept tile mortar. Portland cement-based fillers can take care holes and cracks. Painted concrete can be sandblasted, sanded, or ground down to bring up a nice, porous surface. Most tile professionals, including John Bridge, concur: Attaching cement board to concrete is not an acceptable way to surface the concrete prior to tile installation. Thin-set alone will not help the cement board stick to the concrete slab. Screws are the only logical way to do this, but it would entail an extremely tedious and time-consuming process of drilling pilot holes before sinking the screws. Additionally, you would be fighting against the thin-set bed under the cement board when drilling the holes and driving the screws. The View of Tile Professionals But the manufacturer prohibitions or omissions are warranty issues. The questions remain: Can you effectively pair two cementitious products—cement board and a concrete slab? ************************************ I went to Wedi's website, and the foam panels CAN be used on concrete for floor tile. Installation over concrete subfloors Floor application for wedi Building Panel All wedi Building Panel sizes and thicknesses can be used as tile underlayments over concrete subfloors. Modified thinset mortar, combed through with a minimum 1/4” x 1/4” notch trowel, will then provide a ribbed bed into which the wedi Building Panels will be laid. All joints should be staggered so that no seam continues throughout the length of the floor. Apply weights (i.e. tile boxes) onto the surface and where transitions are located while the mortar is setting up. After the mortar has set, wedi alkali resistant fiberglass mesh tape, or wedi Sealing Tape or wedi Joint Sealant should be applied to all seams, then tiling can begin. So Wedi panels may be easier and faster for us to install after the marble tile is gone. I also found a new floating porcelain tile product that Dal Tile started selling. It is like installing laminate flooring or vinyl planks. Dal Tile Revo Tile - they said I could install it over the marble as long as I level the floor with self-leveling compound, including where the missing tile is. I still need to follow requirements per tile industry as to x " per 10 ft. I can't remember ... 3/16" or something like that. https://www.daltile.com/revotile $4.50 sf plus $25.00 for tools, $58.00 for 9 lbs of grout. Underlayment $54.00. Adhesive tape for seams. $542.00 and I can install it. I am calling We Ship Floors tomorrow to see if their floating Supercore Extreme Vinyl Tiles can be installed over my marble once the floor is leveled. And if I can install over Wedi panels. For someone who works with mud day in and day out, I am sure it is much cheaper, but I am afraid that I can't do it. Three more tile guys today told me wrong installation procedures for backerboard on the marble and for the tub surround, so I will not be calling them back. Just because they owned a trowel doesn't make them an expert on tiling,...See Morekudzu9
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