ID please: is this rose 'Aviateur Blériot' or 'Gardenia'?
jaime_eusebio
8 years ago
This is a common rose in Portugal and I've found this blooming today in Sintra, but no one actually knows its name. A friend says it is "Aviateur Blériot', but for me it looks more like "Gardenia". does anyone have a clue? Thank you. PS:they are very diferent from "Alberic Barbier" in form and age in a diferent color.
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jaime_eusebio
8 years agoThank you Ingrid. that's a good point! Here is a photo of its foliage:
Hope it helps.
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oldrosarian
8 years agoIn my PNW garden, Aviateur Bleriot, had small flowers which were a soft yellow. Gardenia is a monster type rambler where Bleriot was more refined and had thinner stems. I only have a photo of Gardenia. In a warmer climate, your photo could be Aviateur Bleriot.But in my garden the flowers were tended to me untidy.
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