I have the 4840 Washer & Dryer. I purchased them in February 2008. I LOVE them. I have previously owned a set of Maytag Neptunes....almost as nice. My experience with the rinse was a surprise like everyone else as to how little water these machines use. I use the Persil and/or Tide HE along with a liquid fabric softener (Downy) as you could damage the dryer by using dryer sheets due to static electricity. I use these machines 2 to 3 times a day. We have a large household with lots of dirty clothes. My youngest daughter is a culinary student and when she first started coming home with all kinds of stains including berries, wine & chocolate I was worried. It proved to be for not. Even with my Maytags such stains would still leave "Ghosts". Not only has the Miele erased the stain completely, it does it with care. Her chefs coats still look new (9 months old). Two weeks ago, her teacher and fellow students finally asked her how she keeps her white coats and aprons looking new. They thought that perhaps she had 20 uniforms. She has 5. She told them to "Ask my Mom". lol With that said.....the subject of rinsing. You should also know that I have what's known as "Hyper Smell". I can smell things that most people cannot...unfortunatley somehow related to migraines. To say I am extremely sensitive to smell would be an understatement. I am very particular about laundry. I was told by the technician that installed the Miele's, to use only 1 Tbls. of soap. After a few washes I noticed that there was a musty smell to my laundry. I soon realized that even with the Persil I needed to add more soap. It was the amount of soap (or lack of) that was actually making my laundry seem that it wasn't "Rinsing" properly. I experimented for a while and have found that the 1 Tbls. per load is too good to be true. I now use 3 Tbls. per average load and it has eliminated the musty, not clean odor. They are rinsing beautifully. If clothes do not rinse properly you will notice a build up of some kind. Your clothes will feel tacky or powdery...is that even a word? Ayway, ultimatley with 3 Tbls. of soap my laundry smells fresh and the fabric is light. This tells me that the rinse cycle is performing well. As for the gray coloring of clothes, I have never had that situation. The Master Care "Extra White" setting is AWESOME!!!!! This is what I use on the Chefs clothes. As hot as the water gets with this setting, you would think it would eventually do some damage to her coats and aprons but after 9 months they still look brand new. I hope this helps. Warmest Regards

Great videos Larsi! When I win the Lottery tonight I will get my own Little Giant!

Thank You Larsi. I love your Little Giant vids.

To Nancy, the original poster, we have flipped, cheeseclothed, stuffed and not, ...done it all. For us it depends on the size of the bird and the oven. We brine. And rinse. Then let the bird rest in the fridge un-covered for a few hours to dry off. We never use the amount of salt in a recipe. We learned early on, years ago, from a disaster recipe for chicken thighs DH wanted to make 'as the recipe exactly' even though i thought it was far too much salt and soy sauce. This was years ago and we could not eat it. It is now one of our favorites, adjusted. Following a brined Turkey recipe without experience brining might have the same outcome. It really isn't necessary especially if your Turkey is 'enhanced'. All our ovens are different. Sizes and heat methods. Gas vs electric. One persons perfect bird 'recipe' is not necessarily mine or yours. Use your thermometer and check temp. If it works this year, the same good outcome will work the next time. Same oven. (we have a new oven so we watched it like a hawk this year) My mother has a new oven and it was shoe leather last year. She just did what she always did but never checked temp. (we were driving/traveling) so we could not help at all...