OK Boop I'm going to give you my family recipe I use and my disclaimer and warning, I never measure so I will try to get as close as I can but most of the time I follow the rule of start small and keep adding to taste. If you can get 2 cups of drippings, add 1 to 2 cups of chicken stock. Then add the turkey neck and the turkey butt to the pot. Next add poultry seasoning, sage, salt and pepper to taste. Normally I add a bit of poultry seasoning and sage, let it simmer for awhile and then add more to taste. Next add 3 to 4 boiled eggs cut up, about a tablespoon of butter and let the whole thing simmer on low to slightly medium until it finally starts a good rolling boil. During the cooking process, stir every now and then mostly to make sure that it is not sticking in the pan. When you have a good rolling boil, then add a little water to a cup and slowly add a tablespoon, possibly two, depending on how much gravy you wind up making, of flower and stir in the cup until it is smooth. If you add the flour slowly and stir into the water quickly, it won't be lumpy. Once you have a smooth non lumpy flour misture, pour this mixture into the gravy and again cook slowly until it comes to a boil. At this point then begin adding the additional poultry seasoning, sage and salt and pepper to taste and cook until thickened and that's it! It is really easy peasy and if you feel you have to measure the seasonings start with a teaspoon and keep adding until you get to get just the right taste level. If you get really stressed email me and I will give you my home number and I can walk you through it! Gobble gobble!!

I do ! Here it is.: Apple Cake 4 cups chopped apples 1 1/2 cups sugar 1/2 cup raisins ( I use chopped other fruit like dried peaches or apricots) Mix and let sit for about an hour ( less is OK) 2 cups flour 1 1/2 tsps baking soda ( I like 3/4 tsps soda and 3/4 tsps BP) 3/4 tsps salt 1T cinnamon 1/4 tsp nutmeg Mix dry ingredients 2 eggs 3/4 cups veggie oil 1 tsp vanilla beat together 1 cup chopped pecans if desired. Add the oil and eggs to the apples and sugar and dried fruit. Stir in the dry mixture and add nuts if desires. Pour into greased 9 by 13 pan and bake 350 until doneïÿý..40 to 50 minutes. Serve with cake gravy! Cake Gravy Mix 1 cup sugar ..half brown half white 1 stick butter 1/2 cup light cream 1 tsp vanillaïÿý. Mix all and cook all in a sauce pan for about 5 or 6 minutes until caramel colored. Serve warm over the cake.

Turkey necks are my standard for making homemade stock. I just simmer, no pre-roasting. Sadly, last year the major commercial poultry processor stopped offering retail packages of turkey necks. Apparently the pet food mfgs pay more so it all goes to them now. I was stumped until I realized an artisanal turkey producer probably offered them. It's two counties over, but we visit that area every few months anyway. So I stop in and pick up 5 or 6 bags of frozen necks to bring home. Lots of natural gelatin so the stock gels. Makes a killer demi-glace, too.

"...The definition of gravy refers specifically to a sauce made from pan drippings of a roasted protein. If you are not roasting the protein first, where are the drippings? Roasting necks and wings is not gonna do it! IMO," I picked up our turkey Monday night and did all the misc shopping. They had big necks and wings. (usually gone by the week or two before thanksgiving). Decided to make another fresh stock. One wing, one neck. DH roasted with veg when he got home. Then into the mauslin. I got home close to midnight last night and did the finishing. Straining and chilling. 2 quarts of gorgeous stock for gravy and the stuffing/dressing. Roasted proteins make drippings. Necks and wings are proteins and they are huge.