White Or Cream Austin shrub for heat
DandyLioness (CA 9, SZ 14)
8 years ago
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8 years agoLynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
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What is the verdict on the white Austins?
Comments (19)My fair bianca is so pretty! She has the best spot on the best soil right in front. I think the harder to grow roses need this extra help but then pay you back in the end. Glamis castle took a while to get going. I had to spray regularly the first 2 years to help it. Now that its a good sized bush, it dosent need the extra spraying and blloms more than bianca. I planted it in 1/2 days sun ( afternoon) to develop more of the pale color in the beginning of the flower. Also this seems to tame down the myrrh fragrance to a fruitier myrrh which I prefer. My winchester cathedral has never been a big bush or a big bloomer. It never reverted to pink. I like to flowers it gives on occasion, so I keep it. The Shepherdess for me was a spring dissapointment, but a fall success. I know this supposed to be a pale yellow, but here where I live it's usually white. On overcast days, it has been pale yellow. Slow to start but now a wonderfully shaped bush with many eyecatching cupped flowers. I'm glad I took a chance and tried it this year....See MoreSmall white or cream shrub rose
Comments (18)I can tell you a rose to avoid. This past season, I got Out of the Night which is related (sport?) of Out of Yesteryear. And it has been a mess. Balling in the heat, balling in the rain. Have never really even seen what its bloom look like unballed. Pope John Paul II has not gotten very large for me. It does not have the Austin flat bloom, but it has a lot of petals as well. Austin doesn't seem to have a very good white that I have seen. My mother in law grew Glamis Castle and it did horribly. The bloom was more rounded and did not open flat. Am still looking for a wonderful smaller flat and fragrance white rose. I'll be paying attention to this thread. Good luck, CJ...See MoreWhich Austin English roses do I NEED to add next season?
Comments (84)Thanks Kate--I guess I've been very much on the fence about whether they'll tolerate the cold here, will just have to see I think. The flowers look so gorgeous I think I have to try anyway, so I was going to put in 4-5 and see. I'm essentially zone 6 in the backyard, so maybe I'll have success with them if you have. Do you winter protect? My neighbor did lose some HTs from year to year but he planted the bud union above ground and didn't winter protect. My Austins always seem significantly hardier and I was hoping these, although marketed as HTs, were more mixed lineage and would be hardier too. The beds are a bit elevated, which hurts cold-tolerance but helps keep things well-drained. But I can bury the bud unions and throw on some bark mulch or leaves in the fall, which may help. Okay, Peter is officially on the list, and I think I MUST have Liv and Yves Piaget--the flowers look too wonderful to pass up. Every weekend the ground stays workable I keep fixing up the beds to accommodate more roses...so now I have room for another order from Roses Unlimited!...See MoreHeat-tolerant trees/shrubs?
Comments (10)The bed next to my driveway gets sun all day and no water from me except that which spashes on it when the car is washed (not often). Plenty of plants thrive there. This area is not the Southwest: we get rain & snow. Xeriscaping isn't necessary unless you want the Southwest look. Among the plants in my driveway bed are: peonies, red twigged verigated dogwoods (it is a lovely shrub), tree peonies, dianthus (fire witch), gaura (whirling butterflies), shrub roses, daylilies (stella D'or), lilac, rudbeckia, coneflowers, even phlox. Of course, some of these you are going to have to water initially. I did , but probably not more than once a week. I also use those water grabber crystals when I plant---I soak them in a bucket first and then pour the goo into the planting hole. I have lots of shrub roses that I do not water at all. I really like the Fairy and the crystal fairy, which are pink & white respectively. In short, while I wouldn't put hosta, hydrangea, azaleas, rhodies or ninebark to bake in the sun, I would not limit myself to desert plants. This area is just not that hot....See MoreDandyLioness (CA 9, SZ 14)
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