High-end new kitchen without soft-close
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Comments (7)Which resort ? That can make a huge diff. too $1.5m at Keystone or Big Sky is high cotton. 1.5m in Deer Valley or Aspen is low rent / slummin it, so that detail matters, and influences what "other people" might at purchase time. If you are living there a significant portion of the year - get what you want and are comfortable spending on. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to game the market for resale. Even the professionals can't and won't give you a pat answer on what to put in there for that. Besides, it's almost a certainty that you will not recoup the xtra spend on luxury appliances / finishes now when you go to sell in 3,5, 10 years. They may make it easier for you to sell faster though. The main draw is that you stack the odds in your favor to not have to replace stuff during ownership AND you'll get greater satisfaction of use and ownership now. As a sheer financial play, it makes little sense....See Morehigh end appliances in a new build
Comments (9)"As I price things out, I could wind up with a 100k kitchen, once I factor in high end appliances, cabinets, counters, flooring and sinks and faucets. It seems over the top and I'm wondering what other people did in similar situations and if they were happy with their decision." There are several ways to minimize the cost of the kitchen without "cheaping out" on the house. And unless you are running with a really snooty crowd, they won't care that your faucet isn't gold plated and that your omelettes are cooked on a GE and not a LaCanche. Really think through the layout so you have an easy to work in space. Impress people with the workability, not the cost. Learn to spec out your requirements first ... move from general to specific, and think in terms of overall "look and feel" and function rather than a bucket list of "must have because it's high end" things. Remember that an "inspiration picture" is just for inspiration, not a shopping list. 1 - Decrease the size of the kitchen. Instead of a huge kitchen full of high-end cabinets to hold everything, have a smaller one with adequate prep and cooking space, enough cabinetry to store the cooking gear and spices and breakfast cereal and a moderate size refrigerator/freezer for the daily stuff like milk and eggs. Have an adjacent pantry for storage, and another refrigerator and a full-size freezer so you can stock up. But this area is not "on show", so varnished pine open shelving will do just fine at a fraction of the cost, and the appliances can be any decent brand. 2 - For appliances, think function instead of brand aura ... If you need a range with a center griddle, get the one that works the best for you, not the one in all the magazines. 3 - Go simple ... skip the ogee edges, the mocha glazing and stuff. It adds cost without adding to the usability. 4 - Check all price points for the style you want. Yes, it's true that labor will cost the same for $2/sf tile as $20/sf tile ... but as long as the lower priced tile fits the rest of your requirements and looks good, use it! 5 - Ski resorts appreciate offbeat things and imagination: Use recycled and upcycled things, like this kitchen storage wall made of various old storage units....See MoreIs it OK to mix 'high end' with 'low end' in a kitchen?
Comments (56)To me, there's nothing wrong with mixing "high end" and lower cost, functional good-quality kitchen components. More important to me is to avoid the waste implied in buying things that will not last or that will certainly become unfashionable. I live in a working class neighborhood, mostly little 1950s houses with lots of retirees, including myself. Although our lot is on a lake, this property will NEVER command top dollar because of the settlement pattern of the community. The recession has really hurt home values here; I thought our house was $275,000 to $300,000 because of previous improvements, but I believe that it's now $220,000 and that was before we launched a major addition, geothermal, and new siding, etc. No matter what we sink into the house, it's for us, not for resale or peer pressure. We have decided to retain the 30 inch refrigerator we bought last year (an emergency purchase) but to put it in a position where a larger unit could some day fit. No wooden housing around it. We are keeping our old electric range, but are adding a portable induction burner that can be set out on the countertop to increase functionality. There is room for another oven on a wall outside our new G shaped kitchen, but I don't think I will be the one to buy it (unless my grown children move back to live nearby); a portable roaster oven will suffice to augment the baking and roasting for large gatherings. We use our outdoor gas grill in all seasons for grilling. My husband enjoys the ritual of being the griller and he shovels the access space before dinner parties. The broiler in the old range suffices if he doesn't want to venture outdoors. We are retaining our existing dishwasher. Our big innovation is to add a second sink to the kitchen. All sinks and appliances are white. My muse is the idea of a "workshop kitchen." I am not trying to reproduce any particular theme, unless it is a farm kitchen that processes a lot of food in season. I do hope to make the kitchen work as a functional, welcoming space for myself and husband now that we're empty nesters and for events when we have visitors, whether large or small groups. Laminate for countertops is sufficient and my ego does not require anything more dazzling on the countertops, although there will be slabs of butcherblock on either side of the stove. Hubby decided to go with hardwood floor and install it and finish it himself, although I was ready to order the vinyl. We have found a local cabinetmaker who said he would meet the price of a sample plan of readymade cabinets from the Big Box home stores. Now, we're adding custom touches to the cabinetry plans, not in decorative features but real utility features, such as tapping the space that was wasted in "spacers" between boxes. All materials are American made, or American harvested. Except for the old siding and walls and flooring, very little is going to the landfill. Furnace went to the scrap metal guy. My own eccentricities will add all the "pop" and pizzaz that this kitchen will need. Fabric, color, laminate choice, color of stain, art, displays of collections-- a creative outlet without a high end price tag. We have splurged on a bank of windows and a few light fixtures (No, we're not putting in "cans" because the ceiling feeds to an attic where we're fighting heat loss.) We are working very hard to live within our means, following the requirements of good sense and ignoring consumer manias. When I get myself too fired up about making a more upscale purchase, I remind myself that the photos, the ad copy, the home shows and the open houses, are all there to facilitate SELLING, not living. Here in Minnesota, where granite is quarried, I know that some of the rock countertops are fairly reasonable, but as I have declared elsewhere on this forum, I refuse to purchase anything that is sold with a "how to care for it" bottle of something and some warnings about how to protect the finish. In many ways, by definition, I am free from the pressures that other posters feel in order to keep up with the neighborhood, to make a kitchen that defines a house value, or to prepare for the brutal house market. I don't envy the young and broke. But I was there once and I not only survived but thrived on it. The original kitchen in this house was painted baby blue without concern for the cathair? gobs in the paint and the kitchen 'table' had a hinge so we could access the refrigerator. My hubby and my carpenter father and a different local cabinetmaker came up with a sufficient re-do that we have appreciated since right before the Bicentennial. I raised two sensible daughters in that modest kitchen. This doesn't mean I'm not agonizing over choices today, though. "Leave me alone, I'm thinking!" is a common mantra right now. Today's musing: Do I want to order fancier cupboard doors? It's always something. Enjoy your day. Florantha...See MoreQuestion for Mamadadapaige and others without soft close doors
Comments (9)Hi Erika, I am still here! I hope all is well with your planning. The CP designer I used also discouraged me from getting the hinges, but I REALLy wanted them. They are not a hassle at all and I love the way they look. It seems second nature to open the cabinets. If you really like the look, I would say to go for it. I only went for them on my upper cabinets (for the cost savings). In retrospect, I am glad I don't have them on the lowers... I could see that as being inconvenient. You must realize though that I am someone who is really into the overall aesthetic and in certain situtions I put form over function. The hinges were one of those situations. Having said that my kitchen functions extremely well because I paid a lot of attention to optimizing my storage and counterspace, prep space and where x, y and z would go and so everything is in reach for me and my kitchen is a true joy to cook in. The way I think of it is this: I am in my kitchen ALL the time and I love being in there because it functions so well, but also because I love the way it looks. Having spent all we did to improve this space, I was going to get the look I wanted whether or not it meant spending an extra 1/2 second to open a hinge. Those hinges are part of the look and therefore worth it to me, even if it were an extra 2 seconds to open the door (which it isn't). I say go for it, if it is the look you want. You will very quickly get used to the hinge and it will be second nature to you. I went to CP and tried out the hinges on their showroom samples before deciding... if you are in their neck of the woods you might want to do that just to be sure. You must be so excited for the kitchen to come together!!...See MoreBunny
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8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoHere is the photo...I tried to edit my post and add it but wouldn't let me.
The photo on the LEFT shows an inset cabinet with a CONCEALED hinge.
The photo on the RIGHT shows an inset cabinet with an EXPOSED "butt" hinge.
So you can see, the concealed hinge keeps the door within the cabinet opening resulting in a narrower access to the cabinet. -KELLY
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8 years agoLinelle, I DO like soft close doors.....just not paired with inset doors.
Your kitty video is cute. Thank god my two don't go in to my inset cabinets leaving claw marks!
I've always been SO proud that my two cats never got on my countertops! How lucky am I?!? Until one Sunday morning, I come downstairs to THIS!!!! They've not done it since....so hoping it stays that way. :-)
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