Got some grocery store minis. Hoping someone can ID them.
bethnorcal9
8 years ago
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jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
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I wish grocery store minis were named!
Comments (18)That's because of the difference in conditions, Kitty. Those little potted roses are bred and propagated in controlled greenhouse conditions. Then you bring it home and put it outside in totally different conditions and the rose performs completely different. And not all of them are minis either. Some of them are just small because of the conditions they've been grown in and when you get them home and plant them they turn out to be pretty good size roses instead of the mini you thought you bought. You have to remember that they actually breed and sell these to be throw away plants like a cut flower bouquet. They've probably never been tested in outdoor conditions. Most purchasers treat them that way too because they don't understand that they're regular roses and can be planted outside. I hear people in the stores all the time saying things like "Oh, look, a toy rose! Isn't it cute." They take it home, stick it in a window and throw some water at it occasionally (if it's lucky) and when it dies they toss it out. Which is exactly what the seller wants because then you'll come back and buy another one. I've had a few over the years. Some I did manage to ID others I never could. The best one I've had is my Isolde Hit rose that my brother got me one Valentine's Day. (I've trained him very well and he actually got it at a local nursery, so it was healthy, and with a name tag!) It's lasted 3 winters now and is growing and blooming very well. The others didn't winter well and dwindle away. But I've also found that the chances for survival are better if you don't try and split them up when you plant them. Every one that I tried splitting out and planting dies almost immediately from shock. Isolde I left as is and it thrived from the get go....See Moremini (Grocery store roses) & learning something new...
Comments (9)Not only are there multiple cuttings per pot (sometimes up to five), but multiple varieties are substituted for each name. What you find in April as "Red Kordana" (or whatever other name the specific producer calls the rose) isn't necessarily what you will find as "Red Kordana" a month later. The names are trademarked and the outlet simply orders them by quantity and color, or as a quantity of mixed colors. Whatever the company which owns the patents substitutes for that color at that order time has ready is what the retailer receives. From a marketing standpoint, it's great. From yours, perhaps not so much. If the one you found is ideal for whatever use you have for it, you may, or may not, be able to find it again. That was one of Ralph Moore's huge complaints about how the mini market was changing before his death. He believed in creating a specific good rose and offering that rose under its name. Not in making a name and offering a dozen different "disposable" roses under that name. Your rose may remain healthier due to not being as crowded, or it may return to the black spot issues. Only time will tell. Many of these grocery store minis will perform outdoors, but not all. They weren't bred nor selected for garden use, so finding one which doesn't either become a "Jack and the Beanstalk" plant with small flowers; a diseased mess; or one which won't grow or flower in less than greenhouse conditions, is likely to be a hit and miss proposition. My youngest sister filled her front yard with those nearly twenty years ago. They receive virtually no care, pruning, fertilizing, etc., and they have lived and produce flowers. Hers aren't "pretty plants" but they fill volume, occupy space and require nothing of her other than the sprinkler irrigation they receive....See MoreKordana/Kordes/grocery store/mini roses questions..
Comments (1)I bought a beautiful dark red mini at Walmart after Valentine's last year, marked down to about $2. It had about six little plants crammed into the pot. I separated out the plants and potted them up in their own small pots, about 4" size. They grew and bloomed very well last summer. I just potted one up into about a 3 gal. pot. They don't need great big pots while they're small. From a 4" pot I'd pot up into a gallon pot. Then when the plant roots fill the gal. pot you could plant in the ground or in a bigger pot. They do very well in pots. I think your thought about snipping a bud on a tiny plant with poor roots is good. It might help the plant direct its energies more to growing roots....See MoreHow long till grocery store mini's get to mature size?
Comments (10)Thanks for the answers so far folks...today more plants have buds, very nice. I know these roses are pretty much just little cuttings when you get them in the store- by mature I mean mature enough to plant out in the yard and have them actually survive. An adult plant rather than a baby cutting. I don't plan on keeping them in gallon pots forever, just want to grow them out to a mature size to give them better luck at survival. They will likely end up in bigger pots before too long. I'm used to growing out perennials for a year or two to a more mature size before planting out- this is just the first time I'm trying it with the mini-roses. If it can take around 3 years to get to a nice maturity, now I can plan on what size and space in my perennial nursery will be needed for a year or two grow-out. And Trader Joe's is a no-go for me. Outside my travel zone, and I can pick up these roses from other retailers more local....See Morebethnorcal9
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