Brad, Are you asking about the smaller plant that loveblueroses saw, or the larger one that my friend grows, and that I have two plants of? Or do you assume they are the same? The fact that both plants were photographed in chilly San Francisco, in March, suggests they are mountain Papayas (genus Vasconcellea), not Carica. Parts of San Francisco had freeze(s) in December. The larger plant was in an area that was hard hit, and it was damaged a bit. My friend gave me the ID of Vasconcellea pubescens x Dioeca. Everything seems to be consistent with V. pubescens as one parent, including the heavily divided leaves. What is "Dioeca"? One person on another forum suggested it might be shorthand for a dioecious plant of some sort. A species, a hybrid? Presumably whatever that plant is, it is responsible for the small fruits. Your earlier guesses of different Vasconcellea species (March 29) made more sense in terms of location/climate, fruit size, leaf shape, etc. This may very well be a hybrid that has not been given a name, and cannot be found online. If the question about height is intended for the bigger one, I think the fence is about 6 feet. So that plant could be roughly 8 or 9 feet tall? The rooted cutting I'm growing just bloomed today after 5 months--see the other thread. I'm curious how long it takes from flower to ripe fruit.

I'd expect Jujubes and persimmons to do well with no care. Certain figs like Celeste if sheltered from the north wind might do ok. Peaches and plums should grow well if you're willing to spray a lot. Apples will grow well, you'd probably want to select CAR resistant varieties, some varieties need spraying more than others. I wouldn't think cherries would do well for you. Keiffer pears would do great, I love keiffers, some people hate them. Oriental pears like Hosui might do ok but you'll need 2 different types for pollination. Maybe you could try the gardenweb Oklahoma gardening forum. Myself, I'd plant a keiffer This post was edited by bhawkins on Wed, Jan 21, 15 at 11:22

Many thanks nonmember_gw - you are right. Btw, I've never seen the tree but the pictures. Some species, like Summer Red, are really awesome. tim45z10 -what a extraordinary sense o humor!

Yes, exactly. Compare the leaves of the trees and bud shape too. They are different on apples and pears. And when the flowers appear you'll see they are different too. Taste will also tell you what they are.