Frustration in growing citrus (rant incoming + help needed)
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Comments (36)What a great group and great advice!! I do sincerely appreciate everyone's input!! And thanks so much for all the well wishes for success with this project!! lsst, the kudzu is a bad, evil thought joke on my part :-), my grandfather had it on his property and I remember as a child his constant battle to keep it from taking over his garden shed and keep it back out of his veggie garden. I hate that stuff and would never ever consider planting it. Needless to say, I need a LOT of trees. The developer next door decided to clear more lots yesterday and had the bull dozer running all day. I'm going with a layered hedge. The wider, the better for me. I'm going to put in a first line of White Pine. That is going to be my main line down the property line on his side. I've found a great deal on them from both SC Forestry and Arbor Day. I need to find my second "layer" and researching that now. Holly is quite interesting to me, and so is the pyracantha. Both I love. Economical is a key here, as I need so many to form this hedge. I'll be getting more into the magnolia, flowering Cherry, smaller hedge plants up closer to the house in my strategically placed bed areas. I want to define my actual "yard" area more and almost create an enclosed courtyard type of feeling with plants. But my first step is the LONG line of evergreen to block the majority of the view. lsst, I agree, why can't people just read the signs?? My property is posted, and one of the teenagers from the pit bull, yard chicken house has driven once and walked right past the 2 signs at my entrance to come uninvited to ask if I'll sell him one of my classic muscle cars. The first time, he was told no and asked to leave. The second time DH took him and showed him the No Trespassing signs and asked him to leave. One of the same group DH had to run off the back acreage. He seems to have no memory or sense of private property. When I was a child, both my Dad and Grandfather taught me that I was not to even cross a fence line that wasn't posted. And if posted, totally off limits! Both of them were avid outdoors men and even taught me that if I was out for a walk and came up on a pasture, to walk around the farmers fence. I guess that etiquette is now gone forever. Sad to see....See MoreRootstock ID + Lowe's citrus help
Comments (18)I was going to reply again and say your best choice would've been to hound the source company. Most companies eventually will respond, especially if you keep sending them various emails and leave phone messages. They'll start swatting at you to get rid of the annoying fly ;-) But glad they had great service once your request got routed OK. Since you love to know everything about your tree: There are several growers in this area (I live in Fresno, CA). Depends on what they mean by "near". It may have come from TreeSource http://www.citrustreesource.com/. Willits & Newcomb is another possibility and they produce great trees. Our local Lowes said they used to stock W&N trees but no longer, they source the same trees from C&M in Nipomo (that Walmart uses, too) as well as FourWinds. They are either C-32 or C-35. W&N is a solid operation and are building (or have built) protective shelters for their tree production. W&N produces lots of different citrus on the various stocks. For semi-dwarf and standard, their trees are beautiful, with a solid root ball, and are trained/pruned nicely. I'm not fond of their soil for container trees (it's good soil for in-ground, but is too heavy and compacted to keep it in the container). W&N trees are almost always color labeled on stock/scion and I have their color coding sheet. But I think you said yours don't have colors, rt? Anyway, as I stated earlier there isn't much doc on ID for various under stocks. Tons of research and general ed material on various stocks, but you may be interested to grow out a cutting from your stock that folks will be able to confirm the C-35....See MoreI think I've reached my limit-a rant (LONG)
Comments (26)I love you guys!! Thank you so much for the sage advice and the virtual shoulders to lean on. Today I called my son and told him I was coming over to help him deep clean his house. I guess I left my cell phone at home, cuz DH had to text DS to get in touch with me. How liberating that was!! I worked really hard at DS's house, but he worked along side me and was wonderful company, so even tho I'm sore and tired, it was a good day. DS was VERY appreciative of me being there to help him and I liked doing it for him. I'm going to try to talk to DH tonight. He has a tendency to avoid conflict, and while I don't want conflict, I DO need him to hear me. DH has been self employed for years, just recently his business (more like a hobby income the last year or so) has just about come to a standstill. The things he makes are not a necessity item, so he's not bringing in the $$ like before. We can basically only count on my income...which is plenty for us to live comfortably on, but not where we can still live like we do and support another person. DH's income was for the fun stuff and extras for the most part. Rose...your DH sounds so much like mine. When my SS lived with us, it was horrible, too. He was much like yours and when he finally left our house for good, it was like a weight off my shoulders. But he almost tore us apart. My DH has always had a tendency to put his family ahead of me. For the most part, I dealt with it, but they've intruded into our life for the past couple years to the point where I can't take it any more. We've got an empty nest, and I want to enjoy it. We were both parents when we met, so we never had time alone together until the kids were grown. We were starting to have fun together when MIL became a pretty much every day fixture in our lives. She started backing off after I complained to DH, and it was ok, but now BIL is here. I'm just not sure of his situation. MIL said that his wife told her she does not want to reconcile. She wants to be friends with him, she loves him but is not in love...blahblah. He's holding on to the idea that they're going to reconcile. He goes over to her place at least once a week and stays there, but apparently stays on the sofa, and the other day he said he had to sleep on the floor because grandkids or something were there. Yesterday he told me he has an interview at a gym, I asked him about it and it's a fly-by-night outfit (he's a certified personal trainer) and he's been talking alot about how unhappy he is at his job (he works in retail and has a decent job w/bennies). This is his history, he's never worked at a job longer than 2 years, and he's just about past that time now, so he's ready to move on. DH said BIL is broke all the time, likely because he's giving his wife the $$, and that is again typical of him. So I'm not sure how the money thing will work. But frankly, it's not my problem!! The holiday thing...when my Dad was alive, he and my DH did not get along. My DH made every excuse in the book not to spend holidays at my parents, so to avoid the fight with him, and the tension if they were all together, I'd take the kids to my folks and he'd stay with his kid. It made me angry, but I chose the lesser of 2 evils. Later, we noticed a trend, DH would get pouty and start picking fights shortly before holidays. I finally figured it out, that he didn't want to spend time with my family and holidays always included them. His family was not nearby and when they were, they wouldn't come...they didn't want to celebrate. So once I figured out his M.O., I realized it wasn't ME, it was him...and I wouldn't let him get his way. He would pitch a fit and try to get out of events, but I'd make him participate. And what do you know, he always enjoyed himself! But I also learned that he;d bug out early, so I got used to it. He's very shy and not comfortable around people he's not really used to. I'm the opposite, I am gregarious and love to socialize. Well, this year, our DD who was married last year said she would like to host Thanksgiving at her house and have her in-laws and her family together. I am thrilled and am excited to do this with her, but as soon as DH found out (he read the email from DD) he said he was spending T'giving with his Mom. He is extremely uncomfortable about DD's in-laws, he only met them the first time at the rehearsal dinner, and barely spoke with them during the wedding weekend. So he's going to try everything he can to try to get out of going. I'm not going to say a word to him about it...I thought about trying to cajole him, but I'm going to let it be up to my kids to make him understand how disappointed they'll be if he doesn't spend time with them because he's shy and being a baby. But now, with BIL here, or at least in the proximity, he'll find every excuse, and likely his mother will want her boys over to her house. Anyway, it's just drama that I do not want to contend with, and honestly, I thought it was all over with...that DH had moved on, because every year I host a big Christmas party with lots of people and he enjoys it. It's almost like he's taken 3 giant steps back now that his brother is here every day. So the more I think about it, the more I think I need to get DH alone...sit him down and lay it out. I've already made up my mind that I WILL leave him if his mother ever has to come live with us!...See MoreCitrus is not growing...need help
Comments (37)Congratulations. They do grow in cycles, roots, leaf growth, blooms which can turn into fruitlets, roots again, etc. While the roots are growing it can seem like ages before you see top growth and blooms again. The big flowering time is Jan-March, although they can grow through the whole cycle several times a year. Your trees are really way too small to hold fruit yet, but soon the growth will really take off once it has a good root system and will start to grow fast. Once the tree has set fruit, the nutrients go mostly towards maturing the fruit so often the tree will not always have enough strength to keep producing roots and leaves if the tree is still small and young. That is why people say to harvest the fruit if the tree doesn't abort it itself so the nutients can go to develop rootsvand leaves. I have some citrus trees from Logees that have done well, but the ones from rooted cuttings are really small and take a while to get going. They have always been healthy though and they do have unusual varieties you can not always find easily elsewhere. My trees are mostly grafted, but I do have some rooted cuttings and some I grew from seed. And, I am growing them in NJ so there is hope for you. Your new Harris trees look nice. I have many from them too. When you repot them, make sure there are no air pockets around the roots. Push the planting medium with your hands from the pot's rim edge downward and towards the center. Then flush the pot with a lot of water so the medium further settles around the roots. Push downward and to the center again just to make sure everything has settled. If you pot this way you will not need a stick to anchor the tree. If your hands and fingers are not strong enough, push the medium down from the sides of the pot with a blunt stick and push down and toward the center. This is how I repot orchids. You will not break the roots this way and the roots will be planted firmly in the pot and the tree will not wobble or need a stick for support. If the root system is not large enough to support a very leafy top, put a stick along the side of the pot and losely tie the plant to it to provide more stability, or if you need to, put another stake along the opposit side and losely tie the tree between both stakes. Usually, if you pot it tightly you will not need the stakes unless it is in a very windy place or animals keep jumping on it. Good luck with all your trees. Cory...See Moreemachado19
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