I don't know, but having spent years fighting an enormous native trumpet vine that was sending out shoots 20 feet into my gardens, I would no more plant any trumpet vine than I would invite zombies into the garden.

I'm with laceyvail. Nothing but problems for a suburban yard. Definitely difficult to remove, took three years here.

This is not your grandmother's trumpet vine. It's very compact and hasn't grown an inch since I planted it this summer, but had lots of flowers. I am worried it won't grow enough to even climb my chain link fence. This is a really small plant! It won gold and bronze medals for best new plant at a plant show in Europe last year.

http://www.gmpromagazine.com/campsis-summer-jazz-fire-plantarium-2014.aspx

If it get's runners, they won't be anything serious.

"If it get's runners, they won't be anything serious."

If you can come back to us in five years and say the same thing, then I might consider the possibility that this vine might be a keeper. Otherwise, I'm with the previous two posters - trumpet vine is not a vine I'd ever consider replanting. Once was more than enough (and it took me five years to eradicate completely from coming up in between patio pavers).

The plant patent doesn't have any info on spread beyond one year, and it's such a new plant that I don't see any info from other gardeners. I think it only started being sold in 2014 in the US, not enough time to evaluate its ability to spread vigorously.

According to the description on this website, it grows to 3 feet tall and 3 feet wide. Sounds like a real terror!! There were slightly different dimensions for other colors, but I got the gold variety.

http://www.soonerplantfarm.com/plant/trumpet-creeper-summer-jazz-sunrise-gold/

a TV is a TV ... i cant really see any reason to grow such ...

and lets be clear ... if a vine can grow 30 or 40 feet per year ... a dwarf of it.. might only grow.. what .... 10 or 20 ...

what does dwarf mean???

besides.. the problem with these plants.. is the suckering of the roots... does a dwarf not sucker wildly???

i once saw one of these.. it was a 6 to 8 inch telephone pole tree ... and the guy trimmed it bare every year ... and apparently ... it regenerated every year .. too bad i didnt see it in bloom... thank god it was in canada ... for fear that it probably would have popped up in my garden in MI 60 miles away ... lol ...

ken

maybe its not as uncommon as i thought

https://www.google.com/search?q=trumpet+vine+pruned+into+a+tree&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIws3VluCkyAIVjTyICh3nJA9P&biw=868&bih=745&dpr=0.9

Exactly!! It is not the size of the vine that is at issue. The monster in my garden, Campsis 'Madame Galen' (same type of hybrid as the Summer Jazz series), was quite manageable size-wise. Much like the one described by Ken, I grew it as a single trunk to the top of a 6' fence and it was cut back each year to a pretty tight framework right at that point, It would develop into a healthy sized flowering canopy that kind of draped along the top of the fence but nothing outrageous or unmanageable about the top growth at all.

It was the proliferation of root shoots that was the major problem and this seems to be the primary complaint with any trumpet vine: after about the third year - once a good root system has developed - the plant sends out dozens of root suckers constantly, and to a considerable distance. In my case, they came up in a grassy area on one side of the fence and up between concrete pavers on the courtyard side of the fence. It was easy to just mow the ones in the lawn to keep them in check but took a long time and some major demolition to get the ones out of the paved area.

While this hot, new, award winning vine may not grow to a huge size, there is nothing in the literature or the patent documentation to lead one to believe that it will not eventually sucker ferociously........just as all other trumpet vines do. And that's the big problem!!

I have a dwarf trumpet creeper in a container on my deck. I wouldn't plant one in the ground out in my garden but so far it's manageable. I don't know what variety I have (gift from friend) but he told me that it's grafted onto a standard trumpet vine root stock. That could be an issue for some that are unaware of the it's apparent running issue.

They say plant it in the ground with a 5 gal bucket down in the ground around it and it cannot send out suckers. I think that is a good idea. Not sure if you cut out bottom of bucket or not, I would think so to let the water run through.

@rochesterroseman I am impressed with your follow-up after 5 years! (How about a picture?)

I will have to try to get one. I don't have a cell phone and the battery is dead in my camera! But, it's a lovely plant and I should get some pictures.

Rochester - I understand when you are excited about a plant to get some negative reactions to it, is not fun, but, I think where people are coming from is their own experiences with a plant that required so much of them to wrestle it off their property. We all understand that the 'description' said the vine will stay small, but as everyone else has said, it is the root system that people worry about.

You could be right, that after five years, if you haven't seen a problem, then maybe there won't be. But until someone experiences these new hybrid vines even longer than 5 years and knows that the root system is staying put, lots of people see the risk as too much. You seem unafraid, so I hope you are rewarded for your bravery! :-) It sounds gorgeous. I think most people think they are really beautiful and more people would grow them if it turns out the hybrid works out.

I've never tried to grow one so I can't offer any advice. Maybe the supplier that sold it to you would give you the most expert advice.

@rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) Pictures are posted!