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Are Russian Lace Vine (Polygonum aubertii) and Polygonum multi
Comments (12)The first article you linked to discusses 7 patients (all of whom had hepatitis B) that had liver failure co-incidental to taking herbal medicines. (39 other patients with hepatitis had liver failure in the absence of taking herbs). Only 1 of those 7 took a medicine with Polygonum, and that medicine was shown to be contaminated with N-nitrosfenfluramine, which the article said "is known to be highly hepatotoxic". So is that a smoking-gun on the dangers of Polygonum? I think not. The other two articles you linked to discussed correlations between taking other patent medicines that included Polygonum and several other herbs. It is true that Polygonum contains anthraquinones, and in larger doses, these can theoretically have a negative effect on the liver. It should also be pointed out that rhubarb, senna and aloe vera latex can contain even more anthraquinones than polygonum. If someone is taking enough Polygonum (or rhubarb) to see a laxative effect, that ~might~ affect their livers - if they are unusually sensitive to the ingredient and have an idiosyncratic reaction, if they take it for a prolonged period of time, or if the liver is already weakened by hepatitis. A variety of anthraquinone-laden senna laxatives are to be found in virtually every drugstore in the United States, and they appear in the OTC medicine section, not in the supplement section. They are widely recommended by doctors. The FDA could take action if it thought that the risk was substantial. Yet they haven't, and none of the mainstream medical websites seem to be concerned about senna and the liver - even though millions of Americans consume it every year. They express justifiable concerns that people not become dependent on such stimulant laxatives, that they seek attention if the problem doesn't resolve itself or if there is severe abdominal pain, etc. But nowhere did I see doctors identifying liver conditions as a counter-indication for using senna, even though it contains the same 'hepatotoxic' chemicals as polygonum. This special caution is reserved for things labeled alternative or foreign. Hmm... There are anthraquinones in vegetables, such as cabbage and lettuce; beans are particularly high in them. And there is rhubarb, which I shall continue eating. Caution might be in order for some individuals, but the overall risk appears to be quite low....See MoreRussian
Comments (33)Ohhhh,,,,I just love reading all these posts! Karin, I am sooo past salivate I have to wear a bib to catch the drool !!!!! Part of my problem is I don't worry about available space. Or go into the future and wonder will it fit in??? I just jump in. And somehow it all works out for me! I must admit though,,,,,unlike some of the post I read I only keep one of every kind. I don't have multiples of the same variety. Unless it is in the baby growing, gonna find a home for stage. Su your new violets are delightful ! They were the first thing I saw this morning and they are beautiful!!!!!!! And I agree with you,,,a bunch of numbers on the label don't mean as much as a name does! AND easier for us to remember!!!!! I will tell you one thing Joanne (yeah just one thing??? what a hoot!!!) when I go visit my daughter I will have saved up a buttload of money. She says Optimara is about 2 hours from her and that is the only place I am interested in seeing in the entire state of Tennessee!!!! (Course in my opinion she really needs to move back to Michigan. I miss her. Yeah I know she is mid 40's but she is my baby and I miss her!) ANYhow! Karin last fall our local library had a very small new "garden group" form. It was only designed to last about 6 weeks. I found out about it after 4 meetings already passed but I was there for the 5th. When I walked in, there were only 4 others. I made 5. Everyone brought bulbs they dug, starts of stuff wrapped in damp newspaper and one lady even brought quart jars of jam! I thought it was just a "discussion" type meeting. You know, talk, compare notes on how to everything about gardening. Boy did I feel out of place! I brought nothing. But you know, they made me feel welcome anyway, and when they asked "anybody want this or that? I also have this or that at home I can bring next week" of course I said nothing. Without blinking an eye,,, the ladies didn't exclude me from the giving! I felt funny and tried to decline but they acted like I was part of the trading! I ended up bringing home jam and lots of goodies to plant. And I asked them would they like some of this or that from my yard that I would bring to the last meeting. I brought a boatload of stuff for the last meeting and I was so sorry that they wouldn't keep it going thru the winter. I guess the whole point of this is,,,,had you come to a meeting that I was a member of I would have still sent you home with a bunch of stuff. I would have gone out of my way to make you feel welcome. AND this is not a hindsight statement,,,,I have belonged to a few groups that I came to realize were hmmm, well I guess the word is "uppity". While I was there I still made newbies feel welcome and once I really got the hang of that group I decided I could and would live without them. This forum is welcoming, kind and generous. And I try to be the same way when I see someone who would like to rebuild their lost collection or just plain can't afford to buy+ship. Been there,,,understand. And I offer what I can. I love this group!!!!!!! Rosie...See MoreAnyone eat Russian olive fruit?
Comments (16)Check out buffalo berries. The fruit really looks like the autumn olive trees above, add a nice touch of blue/green/silver to the landscape, and produce wonderful small red berries like those pictured above. When ripe, they are sour like a pie cherry or grapefruit and have a hint of grapefruit flavor and a small seed you can swallow or spit out. Their main drawback is that they are very thorny and picking the berries results in numerous pricked fingers. Best to wait until just after a good frost, then lay a tarp under the tree and shake it good to knock the berries off. It is a native, not invasive, and very hardy with few pests....See MoreRussian Sage
Comments (42)Yes, in response to the previous follow-up, they are difficult to transplant, let alone divide. But water often (make sure soil drains well), and they will do well. Companions. I put them throughout the garden, because the deer don't eat them. Coreopsis vert. 'Moonbeam with Malva fastiagata look great with Perovskia (an idea from White Flower Farm); next to Berberis thun. 'Crimson Pygmy' or any other red-leaved Barberry. Echinacea (cone flowers), either pink or white, are good companions. So are late-blooming Leucanthemums (daisies) with Salvia s. 'May Night' and/or Delphinium grandiflorum 'Blue Butterfly'. Liatris 'Kobold' is good, too. You might be getting the idea here that Perovskia a. goes with almost anything. It almost does....See Morejaney_alabama
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