Vigorous rambling roses--controlling
sujiwan_gw 6b MD/PA
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8 years agoMelissa Northern Italy zone 8
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Comments (13)I grow them all. I have to tell you that Felicite et Perpetue can actually become house eating. Mine has engulfed and taken over two other large ramblers. A second one however, which was a mistake planting I've managed to keep as a big shrub. Francois Foucard is a smaller rambler. You would have to place it so that others didn't comptete too much. If you want soft colors, Senator Amic would be too bright. Edmond Proust is taking up a very thickly growing 20 feet of fence here. It's really beautiful. Debutante is slightly smaller. Flora has very wirey canes and in the beginning can be less vigorous. Paul Ploton has a great fall rebloom. Queen of the Belgians is wonderful in bloom. The canes are so amazingly long. I think if you allow it they will grow on and on. Primavere has been smaller than these two with the softest yellow flowers. Healdsburg Glory isn't gigantic (yet, you never know), maybe too bright for you. Rosarie is quite vigorous. My La Fraichier isn't that large but I've heard of it getting very big. Laure Davoust is lovely , not too huge. I'm having trouble remembering Caroubier right now. The bottom line is that ramblers really ramble. I could have given all of mine more room. They're planted 10 to 12 feet apart and most of them are mingling and some are fighting each other. They continue to build as they get older....See Morerambling Rozanne help! (pic)
Comments (8)I disagree about the pruning. I do that all the time - but wait until after the first bloom; it doesn't hurt the plant at all. She reblooms just fine. Cutting it back will keep the plant under control and look better. Moving it is also an alternative, but I like mine closer to the front. It's medium height and has smaller flowers so it can get lost if you put it too far back. I weave it around it's neighbors and it has a nice effect. You may just decide to leave it where it is, but you do need to tame it....See MoreRambling again
Comments (8)I finally figured out why you do long crosses - too lazy to make all those seedling markers - giggle, giggle, snort, snortcolor> Brooke, you are too smart for me. It is a nice extra benefit. BTW, when I said I had over 300 seeds for VL, this is 4 crosses with VL as pod parent and 12 crosses with VL as pollen parent. I checked RP and MS on Stamile's web site. Both are nice. I like AL best as a garden plant and think I might like lavender more for hybridizing. Next year, I want to do some crosses for lavender and also more pink and lavender, hoping for white. I am now making my list (and checking it twice) for hybridizing next year. I think I am about finished, unless overcome by temptation. If you are familiar with any I am considering ordering, will appreciate any comments. Already on order: Ageless Beauty and Savannah Royalty. Probably will order: Imperial Elegance, Jane Trimmer, Lemon Parchment, Bella Sera and Lavender Heartthrob. Considering  but probably only at a good price: Piping Rock and Southern Wind. Reasons: Ageless Beauty  Red edge/eye. Savannah Royalty  double edges. Imperial Elegance and Jane Trimmer for the eye/edge. I liked the unusual look from the seedling from that cross. Would like to explore that cross more and especially use with other eyes/edges. Lemon Parchment. I need more branching/buds in all my seedlings. According to Stamile's catalog, this one is outstanding in both departments. Stamile claims 7 br/40-45 buds. Bella Sera  color  purple with silver edge. Better than average br/bc. Disadvantage  difficult pod parent. Lavender Heartthrob  color  lavender with gold braid edge. Large at 7". Not sure I need LH and Bella Sera, although one has silver edge and one a gold edge. Piping Rock  Branching/bc at 6 and 45-50. Color  purple. Southern Wind  Br/bc of 6 and 35-40. Relatively inexpensive. Not at all sure I need this one. BTW, I do realize that I will not get the br/bc that Stamile gets, but hopefully I will get enough to improve my seedlings. Will appreciate any comments on those I have not ordered yet....See MoreRambling along
Comments (19)filly, cemeteries are one of the BEST places to see old roses in California, though not always a good place to secure propagation material (appropriateness and conservation ethics needing to be taken into account). Planting roses on graves has been a tradition since the Gold Rush, at least. Being a plant ecologist, I drag home lots of odd plant stuff, from all over, but, yes, roses are near and dear -- as they seem to have been to the earliest settlers here, too. The 'Perle d'Or' is interesting, Anna-Lyssa, because I got it as a gallon plant from San Francisco's Strybing Arboretum plant sale run by their volunteers and found out later, when I went to plant it, that it was labeled "CLIMBING Perle d'Or". Three years in the ground so far, it doesn't yet show any particular signs of being a climber, but if it turns out to be that, it would be a rarity. The "regular" 'Perle d'Or' can become quite tall, so the label may have just been a misinterpretation....See Morecentifolia67
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