Neil! Good on you finding these impeccably beautiful plant photos! I believe the Orange pachyphatum is called P. 'ganzo' or 'guangzhou', I almost bought it on eBay from an aussie seller, they seem to be a more common cultivar in Asia, hence the name. But it was too pricey so I backed out on the bid.

As for the other plants, it's my first time seeing them. Your best chance is to try certain search terms on ebay - ie variegated pachypathum, rare pachypathum etc. You'll never know what you can find. You do have to do searches religiously every 2-4 times a week though.

Hope this helps.

ps. Most of these pictures are color corrected a lot for photography purpose, so don't be disappointed if the physical plant acquired is not the exact color you were vying for.

Thank you for making me hopeful again, lol. I was / am attracted to them because of the coloration so I will keep that in mind Bernard.

Oh so this one I found is a pachysedum, It has the same color, but I'm not sure if it's the same plant.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SCARCE-RARE-xPachysedum-Ganzhou-Succulent-plant-in-75mm-pot-/201340651363

Thanks for researching for me Bernard. It isn't the same plant but the colors are awesome. I have 5 of those already. Here's one I took the other day with my new camera. The colors are what they appear, not enhanced. just my watermark.

Bernard, Rina & St. Nick, I've ordered online before but not out of the country. I've heard it can be a real pain. You have to obtain a phytosymmetrica sanitary....whatever certificate which is expensive. What's to stop someone in another country to take our money and run?

I don't know anything about shopping on eBay - I have hard time to believe everything that is posted to see, rather just to read - maybe I am just old fogie...or maybe I can't ID plants correctly enough. But I see something like this:variegated sedum

for AU $20.95+++ and it looks awfully like this one I bought for less than CAD $5:

That's why I said ...buy a ticket and fly to faraway countries...

Rina

Rina- you know I know what you mean. At least if you know the taxonomic name you could order it that way. But then, you run the risk on the seller's end with them possibly mis-identifying the plant.

I would ask Harry for his input but his messages are off and I wouldn't dare ask Laurent. I bother him enough and he's busy working now, or should be, lol.

OMG. what are those??? I have to have them too. Something about their form and colors just mesmerizes me. Thank you Minty for posting those!!

I'm sorry Neil, can't be of much help. I thought that was the same plant to your orange colored one.

Due to the poor selection we get here at the north east, I buy most of my rarer plants online via ebay. So far, I've never paid for any phyto cert and I've received my all plants safely(touch wood). With a few exception, such as the variegated ones died before even getting to me.

PM me and I can tell you the ways around it. The only thing is you have to pay a lot for shipping and packaging. I usually don't tell the seller not to skeem on the tissue and paper towels (I'll offer to pay more if needed) because it really does protect the plant from all the rough handling during transit.

So far, most of my purchases off from ebay sellers have been a positive experience. And sometimes if you want rare plants you need to go through this channel. At least at ebay you can dispute through the resolution center, but most of the time sellers worry they get negative reviews, so if you communicate well, they will follow up on your requests.

I still love all your plants you posted though. So does minty's.

I bet Laurent is the next best person that can answer your question neil. He's the variegated prince in the forum, so I'm sure he will be able to give you the name of the first plant.

I'll say this, you guys have good taste in plants!

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Neil, I've only bought seeds internationally and haven't had a problem. I know live plants are more difficult but from what I hear, it's hard to ship them to other countries and not so hard to get them. Also the good sellers do this all the time and know exactly what they need to do on their end to make it simple for you.

Forgot to add that I'm not pushing you to use eBay. I personally hate eBay but for different reasons.

Breathnez- I agree with your opinions!

Bernard- You are always helpful, eager to share, and informative and its so appreciated. If you happen to catch the red-eye out of Kennedy let me know so I can send you a check! You're closer to Europe than I am, lol.

Nicholas- Did you not get the messages? I only sent 10 of 'em.

Wow, those are ... Wow.

I agree with Trine!

Neil, photo N°4 shows an ultra-rare variegated Cotyledon orbiculata oophyla. It's a Korean cultivar. Very very slow-grower and very unstable variegation.

I have several variegated cotyledons but not this one because it's way too much expensive. A very small plant with a not well balanced variegation is worth 300 US$. A very small plant with a perfect variegation is up to 800 US$.

Old plants are stunning especially with winter colors : http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcfile210.uf.daum.net%2Fimage%2F2504D64655A1C6EA3C31E2&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.daum.net%2F_blog%2FphotoList.do%3Fblogid%3D0XkbO&h=437&w=583&tbnid=lNW5DjcAGGcDvM%3A&docid=kBLYLQjXcBIx-M&ei=asLeVaP0EYHsUrbQtpAG&tbm=isch&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=975&page=5&start=91&ndsp=21&ved=0CM8CEK0DMGNqFQoTCKPRqdDkyMcCFQG2FAodNqgNYg

Laurent- Thank you for the explanation and the link. $800 is not expensive for such a fine specimen. I will still seek to purchase at least two of them. I will have to sell my car and learn to walk again!

Lol

Laurent, those winter colors just made me drool.

Neil, you could always sell your stuff and move out here... Nothing great here but at least you'll have every succulent in the world. :)

Wish I had any idea Neil, if I can figure out where to get these or names I'll let you know :). Might just be my perception, but most of the amazing hybrids I've seen lately seem to come from Korea or Japan, and very very difficult to attain...

Nicolas - maybe you mentioned it before, but what is your general location? Rina

Neil, your second photo of an orange pachyphytum reminds me of a young Pachyphytum viride but I can be wrong. I used to grow this plant many years ago before collecting variegated succulents. It's green in summer and orange in winter. It becomes huge :

Summer color : http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roraimanursery.com.au%2Fsales%2Fimages%2Fuploads%2FP_viride_MK88087.JPG&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roraimanursery.com.au%2Fsales%2Findex.php%3Fact%3DviewProd%26productId%3D39111&h=292&w=390&tbnid=LsFRrzzPtYH3IM%3A&docid=do277Cc51ak-8M&ei=OinfVc7aE8WTU7O2s4AK&tbm=isch&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=2217&page=1&start=0&ndsp=14&ved=0CC0QrQMwBGoVChMIzt_Y1sbJxwIVxckUCh0z2wyg&biw=1010&bih=641

Winter color (it's my photo, stolen by a website like many others) : http://fr.aliexpress.com/store/product/20PCS-Pachyphytum-viride-flowers-potted-plants-colorful-obconica-succulents-fleshy-meaty-plant-seed/206849_32248809261.html

Minty- Thanks. The pics of the plants you posted are on my wishlist now too!

Thanks again Laurent!

Neil I sent you a message back :)

Rina I'm in sw Florida, south of tampa

Man those just look like candy on a stem! Or pink grapes! Maybe even those Pink Lemonade blueberries...

Those colors are darling, and I wish you the best of luck getting all these cuties! Hopefully they will become more common in a few years.

Nicholas, no messages! Just sent you one though.

Bummer. I could have given you a cutting of 'Mirinae' a year or so ago.

The last one, #4...are you sure that's arborescens? If not, it could be this:

Cotyledon orbiculata cv variegated

Lighter than your photo but it could be amount of sunlight.

Ordinarily, I'd be happy to buy it for you from Korea and have you reimburse me, but at $850 (uh..,bit less since the dollar is strong right now lol), I'd be too afraid they send you something dead to even offer.

I daresay you're better off buying Google stock. It's nice, but it ain't that nice. LOL

Or, if you've really gone mad, for only $1,400, this can be yours:

Grace thank you for posting the pics. it is the same plant just a bit smaller. I know with a lot of succulents the coloration can be bright and colorful when young and sort of mutes with age. This particular plant I find the reverse is true.

I have a sudden urge to go to Korea, lol.

Where did you acquire the Mirinae?

North Korea, or South, Neil?

LOL Margaret, south of course!

Neil, I got a tiny, tiny, rooted leaf cutting from a friend of mine who brought it over in her suitcase while on holiday because she knew I was a succulent freak. I, of course, happily accepted and plopped it into a huge pot of GM.

In my mind, I honestly think my amazing boyfriend had a moment of being less than amazing during our last move. I absolutely KNOW he dumped a huge 15-gallon pot of gritty mix that had cymbidium orchid bulbs (half of it sitting above the soil, mind you...) and agave roots growing in it and new plants were JUST peeking out after waiting about 6 months. All around the perimeter were some tiny cuttings of this and that, including an echeveria leaf cutting I was growing out that I had actually snapped off in front of a restaurant in Sacramento after asking the owner if I could have just one leaf, LOL. (To this day, he admits to dumping a big pot full of rocks...and insists there was nothing in there.) Of course, in this pot was the cutting with two new leaves, quietly hanging out in one corner, small but most certainly there.Yes, it was hard to see unless you peered in like I did daily to differentiate between the stones and actual plant or the beautiful agave green tips coming out of the mix and a couple thin leaves from the orchid "bulbs," but my request (order?) was to move ALL of the pots to the new house...not "just the ones he thought had plants showing. You can't blame the guy -- the pot weighed more than some cars...and it was a total of about 90-100 pots, AND I didn't do it myself in the 100+ heat....so...

But I clearly said ALL of the pots..."If it has garbage in it, bring it. If it has nothing in it, bring it. Just bring everything and anything except what's already planted in the ground." Verbatim.

But of course, after my move, I focused on the house first and for about 5 days, I didn't get out to the yard at all. I deliberately ignored the plants so that I wouldn't get sidetracked. This was when all of my plants were getting roasted in the sun here and I had no clue. So by the time I got out there to organize and garden, it was nearly a week, and by the time I noticed I had one of my largest pots missing, it was at least a month later or else I probably would have gone dumpster diving at my old house. The Mirinae was really not my biggest concern--but the orchids that I waited and waited on, and that one leaf cutting that I wanted...it wasn't even big enough for me to request an ID yet.

Arrggh... I'm starting to get a little angry again. You men, I swear!! LOL

Well now I have more plants to add to my must list.

Renee- aren't they awesome??

How about we all chip in a little bit for one of these guys and share the cuttings? I am now obsessed with getting a cotyledon arborescens for my collection!

Pachysedum-Ganzhou- is at the Van Nuys Home Depot in a 2 or 3" pot for either $2.98 or $3.98 I can't remember.

I got a leaf of the Ganzhou from a busted nursery plant and just noted today it is producing new fat little green leaves! ( Kind of odd they are so pale since they are under lights) .Then I promptly bumped the mother leaf and snapped her right off her roots.... gah! The leaf looked undamaged, I will see if it roots again!

I bought a Ganzhou just yesterday too - didn't even make it through the checkout line without breaking off a leaf. Have it in a rooting mix and hopefully will get some new babes. Still desperately seeking a cotyledon arborescens.

All the plants in this thread are stunning but cost way too much for me.

Just came across this thread and it looks like it has been some time since it was updated at all. Just wondering how far anyone got with tracking these down at all. I'd be interested in contributing in getting any of these or buying a small plant off someone too. They are really nice looking plants.

Soo the plant in the third photo is Graptopetalum Ellen. Anthony B I have 3 of the four except the mirinae is not variegated. What plants are you looking for?

@Anthony B: IG has a lot of accounts which sell succulents and accept PayPal. Personally I love buying from this website: https://cedarcreekfarmhouse.com/ The owner name is Crystal and she's been importing succulents from Korea and Japan. I have a lot of succulents from her and all are healthy and beautiful. You can send her a custom request so she can check with her growers. Many times she even refunded me because the succulents arrived were a tad bit elongated and send them to me anyway. Of course after a month of TLC, most of them looks spectacular again.

These are some of the succulents I own that I got from her:

#3 looks to me like pink pachyphytum oviferum or "Pink Moonstone", not Grapropetalum Ellen. It's one that has been on my list ;)

Just saying, I stumbled on some on Etsy the other day.

If you have some moo-lah to burn.. click at your own risk

https://www.etsy.com/listing/598883912/rare-succulent-cotyledon-orbiculata-cv?ref=shop_home_active_69

Jessica #3 is not pachyphytum oviferum "moonstones" OR graptopetalum amethystinum "lavender pebbles" (sometimes known as "pink moonstones.") I have both "lavender pebbles" and "G ellen" as well as a few other very close look alikes. G Amethystinum's leaves stay more almondy shaped. G ellen has fat almond leaves but with a more defined "leaf shape" to where there are actual rounded over "points" on the leaves.

Has anybody thought to look at seed lists from some of the local purveyors of seed?

I could be wrong, but these seem like the type of plants that are created via tissue culture rather than seed.