cross posting : need advice re winter protection of transplanted roses
westerly pacific
8 years ago
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Transplant Quandry, Cross-posted on 'Peonies' forum
Comments (4)i fear you have an option of killing it with too much love.. GET IT IN THE GROUND ASAP!!!! mother earth.. is the best place to hold over stock ... then you have a month or two to figure out all the variables .. to plant it properly... but it would probably be best if you just put it where you want it ... why dig it up again if you can avoid it.... what is your native soil ... can you protect or shade it?? what is the soil drainage ... and forget about ferts and sprays... the plant is in shock.. no need to rescue it.. to shock it again in a month ... just get it done.. if the soil is anything but clay .....dig hole.. loosen soil ... insert plant at proper depth ... refill halfway ... tamp in lightly .... fill with water.. let drain out... refill the rest.. tamp in lightly.. but firmly .. and water again.. add shade if possible ... add mulch.. and keep properly watered for about 2 years.. water when your index finger.. inserted to the 2nd knuckle.. indicates it is hot or dry .. most plants need to nearly dry in between waterings ... if clay.. advise.. other options ... i would have preferred if you had waited until it was dormant.. but as you said.. sometimes.. you just gotta do what ya gotta do ... dont worry about it ... its hours from winter in WI anyway.. lol ... and i wouldnt be surprised if all the leaves fall off soon based on the fact that it is mid-spetember.. dont worry about that.. its all about those buds on the tips .... if they stay firm you will win ... if you can take care of business without over-thinking it.. or killing it with too much love.. you ought to be all set ... i usually horrify peeps who watch me .. when i just rip something out of the ground.. and stick it somewhere else.. and then water it properly.. but otherwise ignore it ...no over-thinking it here.. lol.. JUST DO IT now go seize the day.. or tree peony .. lol [i guess you already did.. lol] .. now let go of it .... ken ps: what did i miss gal?? lol pps: i potted and moved one .. over-wintered in the pot ... and it made it.. they arent as foo foo as you might think .......See MoreAdvice for transplanting roses
Comments (7)Wait for spring as noted above. In your zone find the sunniest spot you can and don't worry about whether it's morning or afternoon sun. It won't ever be that hot or intense like it can be in warmer climates. Roses need at least 6 hours of direct sunlight to bloom but really prefer 8 hours to do it well. And preferably find a spot some place that has few if any tree roots. Roses don't compete well with them. Besides, it's a pain to dig holes in them, lol. A lot of roses come with small metal tags wired onto the canes at the bottom. Try to find them if you can. If the base of the rose is buried you may have to dig around a little. Some times the tags can get buried over time. If they've been surviving on neglect for all this time they're probably pretty hardy and tough so don't worry about moving them. Prepare the new holes first. You do want to plant them deep in your zone. You want the crown or graft of the roses, the place all the canes start coming up from, to be about 4 inches below the ground so dig deep holes. Then try to get as big a root ball as you can when you dig them out. Put them on a tarp or in a wheel barrow to make moving them to their new homes easier. Plant them and watering them in. If you do it before they wake up they'll never know they were moved! What kind of bed you'd like is really up to you. Whether you plant them all in one bed or in separate ones make sure you give them room to grow. Most people recommend 3 feet from center to center on most modern roses. But that is not always the best case and until you know what you have it will be hard to judge. I would concentrate on moving them and getting them healthy for now. Once you begin to see each roses personality you will be able to make adjustments in placement better. Don't worry, you can move them again if you have to. Any rosarian will tell you they move theirs all the time. I know I do!...See MoreRoses...protected them last winter, now what?
Comments (6)fillagirl I'm fairly new to roses also, but I don't think you even needed to cover your Winnipeg Parks and William Baffin roses. I'm certain the William Baffin is a very hardy one, and the word Winnipeg in the other tells me it might be very hardy also. If you do a search on this forum, you'll find there's quite a few people in the colder zones that grow a lot of roses, and you can probably read the posts until "the cows come home", LOL!...See MoreRose winter protection in our area
Comments (9)I try to plant my roses deep enough so the graft is covered, and all my gardens are covered with a couple of inches of mulch. I try to select varieties that have low incidence of disease so that the roses go into winter healthy, and I usually select varieties that are hardy to this area. I don't prune my roses until spring. Other than that I don't do anything - my garden tends towards survival of the fittest. We do usually have quite good snow cover which serves as natural mulch. I have lost one rose that was pushing the zone just a bit after that weird mild winter 2 years ago (though it might have been the voles chewing on the roots,) and I have one from a cutting from my grandfather's garden that also probably isn't quite hardy enough since it gets killed back most years pretty severely. Other than that, I have grown half a dozen or so roses that have done just fine over many years with no coddling. If your roses aren't hardy enough for your zone, you probably want to protect them in such a way that there is something to screen out the critters who might like to nest in that nice cozy spot you have provided....See Moremarciaz3 Tropical 3 Northwestern Ontario
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