Debating drop-in vs undermount Blanco..
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Comments (32)Not too late at all-- we have not even broken ground yet, I am just trying to get all the decisions made, or at least narrowed down, as soon as I can. I'm glad to hear you like the Andrea, and that you found the 60 x 32 to be comfortable. That is the one I have tentatively decided on, even though I haven't found one to sit in. I looked really carefully at the specs and it seems the closest in back slope and arm rests to the tub I have now, even though this one is much longer. I do like the modern lines as well. Are you doing the drop-in or undermount? I guess if i do a tile deck, I'll have to do the drop-in, but it should look fine. (You are so right, a lot of the modern sleek-looking tubs have way to straight of a back for me.)...See MoreInstalling Undermount Sink without Using Brackets???
Comments (24)Sorry Davridro - I couldn't see this thread there for a while, and I have been busy with other stuff here in AZ.... not diss'in ya Bro - OK?? As far as this whole debate goes - here's the dealeo as far as I'm concerned: The smaller you make the stone around a sink opening (ie; 1" vs 2") the greater you increase the opportunity for fracture - Davidro - you are correct in your argument about the application, etc. The important thing to remember (and I think that you have pointed this out very well) is that the "plane" or "application" of the stone - has to be supported and remain flat without movement or "flex".... Plywood subtops do this very well, but adding steel re-enforcement to the recipe - IMHO - does it even better. I had a friend that actually laminated 3/4" x 3/4" box steel tube to the underside of a 2CM laminated front edge assemblies - so that the steel was not visible because of the front edge lower half covered it - he'd set the assembly directly on top of the cabinets. Sadly, he had to close his doors last year (it's NOT been fun here in PHX), so I do not know what his long term success rate will be - he started doing this process in 2006.... so we'll see. The other "ingredients" that make or break this whole scenario are: 1. stone thinkness - 2CM or 3CM 2. type of sink - stainless, cast iron, plastic, etc 3. size of sink 4. size of cabinet base sink is set in 5. depth of countertops 6. set back of UMS opening from front edge of stone 7. amount of support for sink and countertop from cabinet assembly 8. type of subtop material used (if any) 9. type of rodding used (if any) method of sink attachment and support (type of clips or support assembly used - if any) movement of the home, cabinets and/or countertop assembly (if any) amount of downward pressure or force applied to the sink assembly (gravity, content of sink and weight of garbage disposal and associated plumbing attached to the sink- all pulling down on the sink and the stone) potential for water penetration into the subtop Bottom line here - is that Davidro has some good comments on this thread, and there are multiple scenarios that will play out in determining whether or not an UMS application will hold up - long term hth kevin...See MoreCan this sink be 'undermounted'? BLANCO 34 x 22 Silgranit
Comments (2)My granite and silgranit sink were installed on Thursday and I tossed and turned all night on Wednesday wondering if my base cabinet was going to be big enough for undermount. I had it in my head that the installer was going to say I mis-measured by a quarter inch so they'd drop it in! As it was, they didn't use the undermount clips but held it up with some kind of wood screwed into the side of the cabinet for support. My sink hole was cut on site (long story) and silgranit epoxied right in my kitchen. BTW, I bought the 511-705 which could be mounted either way. The clips were included but not used....See MoreBest practical undermount sink
Comments (11)Kath: There isn't a "most durable" sink, there are only tradeoffs. Stainless steel is a great sink, but it can scratch and dent. Fortunately it's easily refinished. Composite sinks are difficult to scratch, but if you do, matching the factory finish is problematic, unlike stainless. Cast iron is tough, but unrepairable. You'll look at that chip until the day you replace it. Unlike composite, the color does not go all the way through. Pick yer poison please. If you're reusing your cabinets and installing a short apron sink (you have to have a short apron), please disregard the manufacturer's installation instructions and use a Sink Strap or two or a Pete's Sink Mount Kit, not the wood blocking and/or clips the manufacturers provide or show in their installation videos. If you're going to have the manufacturer-recommended 1/8" positive reveal, which I highly recommend, your sink cutout must be nearly perfectly placed in the top in relation to the cabinet. Coordinate with the fabricator please....See Moredcward89
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