Palm tree or large leaf tree/plant for zone 6?
Brian C
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Growing Palm Trees in Zone 3-4
Comments (11)Great thread, I love out-of-zone plantings! Can a windmill palm really be grown in zone 3 or 4, even with generous winter protection? That would be great, but is seems way out of zone here in the Cdn prairies. I checked out the website, and I've seen them growing on the west coast of Canada (pic included below), but that's a very mild climate, like zone 8 or thereabouts. Catalpa seem reasonably hardy for prairie gardeners looking to test the limits. I've got a small one (two feet high and several years old) growing in my increasingly shady back garden here in Edmonton. It's still very small and is sheltered from winter winds by a nearby fence, but it doesn't seem to have suffered much winterkill during the past couple of winters (but they weren't harsh winters). Ginkos are great... I had a small one but it didn't make it past it's first year in Edmonton's suburbs, yet I know of one on the University grounds downtown that has survived at least 10 years. Actually, I haven't seen that tree in about 10 years, so I really need to locate it again and see if it is still doing okay. I used to also watch a ginko growing in Drumheller, Alberta, near the Red Deer River (pic included below) -- last I saw it was small but healthy, but I haven't checked it out for the past decade so I really need to take another look. My sugar maple is about 12 feet high, growing more as a bush than a tree. It is maybe 10-12 years old, and has a fairly thick trunk. It can winterkill quite severely, but has been doing pretty well the past 5 years or more. I have a butternut tree roughly 12-15 feet tall, at least 10 years old, and it has produced nuts for the past several years. My grapes (Valiant) produced heavily this fall, and the wine from them is now bottled. Pears (Ure) are usually ignored when they ripen, but they are tasty and the tree has been growing vigorously for 15 years. Magnolia and Northern lights azalea survived several winters but seemed to get increasingly smaller each year, eventually discarded. Forsythia did great in a mild winter, but crappy otherwise, and were a pain to chop out, including all the sucker-plants. Well, that's all my info on out-of-zone plants. If I can actually grow palms here in zone 3, please let me know! Ginko growing in Drumeller, Alberta - 5 to 6 feet tall, healthy but with some winterkill of top branches Windmill palm growing in a garden on the Sunshine Coast, north of Vancouver, British Columbia....See MoreFoundation planting: replacing an overgrown tree, zone 6a
Comments (9)Sigrid, I LOVE weeping cherries, magnolia, tulip trees, etc. I really want a smoke tree somewhere on the property, too! I'm on a corner lot (second picture in above comment is taken from the corner of the road) so there are visibility issues to contend with. Your suggestion does bring to mind that I could probably put something out in front of the planting bed that would not obstruct line-of-sight for vehicles, so I'm going to think about that! I'm planning to transplant the hosta from the flower beds and rip out the pokeweed, and then plant with a nice mix of evergreens (maybe inkberry, japanese holly) and perennials. If I put a deciduous tree out in the front of the flower bed instead of in the corner, what might be a nice choice for the corner? Just aesthetically speaking I feel like I want something taller than the other front plantings in that spot, and I probably want it to be an evergreen to decorate with lights during the holidays, and to provide some privacy from passing vehicles. I'm definitely going to put a shrub of some kind on the other side of the door. I love Annabelle hydrangeas, so that's a possibility. I also may go with an evergreen again, so it won't be bare in the winter. The square window back on the ell is my kitchen window, and it would be really nice to have some nice views of flowers or trees while I'm at the sink. The false door on the ell could also use some landscaping, but still not sure what I want to do there. What type of magnolia do you have, if you know?...See MoreHelp With Unidentifiable Tree/Plant (Zone 6)
Comments (2)Sorry no one else has answered you. It's mulberry, probably Morus alba. It's one of the most requested ID's on the forum, partly because the leaf shape is variable....See MoreNew Trees - how often to water? Zone 6a
Comments (4)Something I didn't see in the opening post was whether the crew removed burlap from the root balls when planting. That's important, because leaving on the burlap (especially if it's synthetic or treated) prevents or inhibits root spread into the surrounding soil, leaving trees vulnerable to soil moisture fluctuations and making them unstable (I have a vivid memory of seeing the aftermath of a thunderstorm with high winds on a neighbor's property. Two maples planted on his front lawn were completely blown over, even though they'd been there for a few years. The burlap was intact around the root balls). "Today, I dug down to the edge of the root balls approximately 6 inches and noticed the soil is moist, but not wet. I scooped up a bit of soil and balled it in my hand. When I pulled up the amended soil, it crumbled and didn't stay formed. But when I pulled up soil with clay, the clay stayed densely packed in a ball." You did well to check soil moisture at root level - a much better way of regulating watering than following a set schedule, which does not take into account rainfall and other climatic variables, as well as soil conditions. As long as the soil at that level is remaining moist (not soggy) between waterings, you should be in good shape. As for amending soil in tree planting holes, there are different schools of thought about that, but many experts think it's fine to amend to a mild degree, especially if the surrounding soil is problematic. You just don't want to have excellent tilth in the planting hole and hard-packed clay adjacent to it, which could lead to puddling of water in the hole and roots not spreading out into adjacent earth like they should....See MoreBrian C
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