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Forgotten Cemetery Treasures.....Roses we've saved
Comments (38)Reality Check Time There are areas of the country where roses did not tend to be planted in cemetaries. Iris, yes, peonies, yes, daffodils, yes, arborvitae in vast quantities, but not roses. In one week in Arizona, not even particularly looking for either cemetaries or roses, we saw more cemetary roses than I've ever seen in this part of the country. The closest anybody seems to be to an explanation is that roses in cemetaries are connected to a Catholic cultural heritage, which doesn't really arrive in the northeast until the late 19th, early 20th century. My mother's family cemetary plot in western Pennsylvania looks like something from an Edward Gorey drawing (as did my grandparent's house) Which brings up something else to keep in mind. The major enemy of neglected roses in the eastern part of the country isn't drought but trees. Many older cemetaries here are heavily shaded. In the really old cemetaries - the 17th century ones - it's not uncommon to have 200 year old trees growing in the middle of the headstones. So you have the conumdrum that roses can only exist around people, but people can decide to get rid of them....See MoreGenealogy people, pls. help me read this gravestone
Comments (106)This has all been interesting. One thing to note is that when a woman married she was considered a "bride" during the first year of marriage. Sophie could have died during that time and been designated as such on the headstone. The designation would have indicated that yes, they were legally married but they did not share a long life together where they were known in the community as a 'couple' and they were probably childless. This archaic designation is sometimes still used today with introductions, such as "This is my cousin Jake and his new bride Mary" or "My brother has returned from his honeymoon with his new bride". Knowing local history can sometimes yield clues. Often times there was a sweeping pestilence that wiped out huge numbers suddenly and headstone markers where put up fast or further engraved years afterwards when some of the defining information had been lost or was unknown. One of the most interesting bits of history I learned was the time period designated Year Without A Summer. Large numbers of people died in the Northeast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer Here is a link that might be useful: Year Without A Summer...See MoreA somewhat enigmatic gravestone
Comments (33)Has anyone else watched the Ric Burns documentary about death in the Civil War? It was the first time that Americans had been wounded and killed in such astounding numbers, and far from home. Tens of thousands died in a single battle, overwhelming resources to identify or even to bury the dead. Family had no certain knowledge of a soldier's death. They were unable to mourn and bury him. He had gone to war and...vanished. The aftermath of this war saw the establishment of the first national cemeteries for war dead. (Lincoln at Gettysburg.) Clara Barton raised funds as an individual to nurse the wounded -- and the vast numbers of men who contracted disease living in crowded and unsanitary camps. A grieving father of one Union soldier fought to establish an ambulance service. This war also brought the first military hospitals. Women volunteers began a registry to help family seeking information about soldiers who went to war and just *vanished*. Sometimes a man's fellow soldiers would be able write to the registry to recount his last hour -- some comfort and closure for his family. Each side acted largely without mercy towards the opposition's wounded or dead. The restored Union did not gather and individually bury enemy soldiers; nor did the South. I'm glad we watched this before Veterans Day....See MoreAn unusual gravestone
Comments (12)Our searches have shown that consort was an old term for spouse. The death date on this stone is 1821 and is in the period when that term was used. This term is rarely found on stones newer than 1850. We first thought that consort may have applied to a common law marriage, but found that the term may apply to either a common law or regular marriage. Common law marriages were present on the frontier in the 1700s and up to 1850. In some cases, no clergy was available and a formal court house may not have been in existence. Some states had resolutions to cover common law marriages, Typically, if a man and woman had lived together as a married couple for 7 years, then the law considered them married....See Moremurraysmom Zone 6a OH
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