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Forgotten Cemetery Treasures.....Roses we've saved
Comments (38)Reality Check Time There are areas of the country where roses did not tend to be planted in cemetaries. Iris, yes, peonies, yes, daffodils, yes, arborvitae in vast quantities, but not roses. In one week in Arizona, not even particularly looking for either cemetaries or roses, we saw more cemetary roses than I've ever seen in this part of the country. The closest anybody seems to be to an explanation is that roses in cemetaries are connected to a Catholic cultural heritage, which doesn't really arrive in the northeast until the late 19th, early 20th century. My mother's family cemetary plot in western Pennsylvania looks like something from an Edward Gorey drawing (as did my grandparent's house) Which brings up something else to keep in mind. The major enemy of neglected roses in the eastern part of the country isn't drought but trees. Many older cemetaries here are heavily shaded. In the really old cemetaries - the 17th century ones - it's not uncommon to have 200 year old trees growing in the middle of the headstones. So you have the conumdrum that roses can only exist around people, but people can decide to get rid of them....See MoreFindAGrave found me a cousin!
Comments (9)That's great. You have bridged a gap that for many of us is a brick wall. I have traced my line back to a 420 acre plantation in Virginia before the revolutionary war. The first one of my line came to the Virginia Colony in about 1737. We have a transcription from an uncomplete journal that states our forbear came from Wales. This piece of data is not as concrete as I'd like, but its the best we have. I have not been able to connect across the ocean in British Isles. I have found the surname in England at the right time period, also variant spelling of it in Ireland, but have found no connection to anyone who shipped to the new colonies shore. The surname is not popular which helps, but on the other hand, it is easily mispelled. Two versions of the name exists side by side here in the States and I can document that two versions were used within the same family. There was doubt as to the correct spelling. I have a hunch that the surname origin is Irish....See MoreOverkill for FindAGrave
Comments (24)frogged: You have 2 questions: 1) What's the big deal about finding a 4th or Nth cousin, and 2) what do you get by finding a name on a gravestone? 1. To me, I do not concentrate on the side branches of my main tree. I do collect that data when it is readily available and add it to my tree if there is spare time. Sometimes, these side data points to new information. Lately, I have kept an eye out for genetic disorders or interesting features that I may have inheirted. My focus is on my main line. I have started with my g-g-g grandparents ( two sets, both in my father's line). My mother's line has been fairly well researched by members of her family and I have a copy. My mother's line was greatly affected by the Civil War. I am learning about early American History as I go. I have discovered that my ancestors were connected to the history of this country that was surprising. My one g-g-grandfather served under Andrew Jackson in the War of the Floridas, and then later in Illinios, he was a Captain in the Black Hawk War when Jackson was President. The family in TN lived near where Jackson raised and raced horses. Andrew Jackson introduced the Order of Masons to Tennessee and a member of my family was the first Grand Mason in TN. The original family was raised on a 420 acre plantation in Virginia when it was a colony. Five brothers were all in the Revolutionary War. If you trace you ancestors back far enough, you may find your connection to history as well. 2. Interest in headstones Sometimes, a headstone is the only written record one can find about a particular person. After searching for awhile, one begins to realize that family oral traditions are important, but subject to error. As a tale gets retold, embelishments get added and old memories can fade. My own mother had a habit of filling in gaps with assumed data and not differentiating between the factual and supposed. Finding something written in the past can be a thrill, but even with headstones, mistakes can be present. However, when a headstone is all you got, it is the best data available. In both cases above, it takes good detective work to ferret out a family history. The hunt and discovery is the name of the game!...See MoreDid you keep your maiden name?
Comments (66)You can still have your married name professionally and on federal papers (ie. passport) in Quebec. There seems to be some confusion: common law relationships are not recognized in Quebec. Sadly, a lot of residents don't know this and don't find out until the dissolution of their relationship when they get screwed by their partner. Google the Lola vs Eric case. This goes back to Quebec being allowed to maintain French civil law when it was conquered by the British. However, the rest of Canada has its laws based on British common law. Quebec might be a part of Canada, but it might as well be on a different continent for all the cultural, political, and legal differences. And its oh-so-French, inexplicable love for bureaucracy. I had to keep my name because... guess where I live. But I would have anyway. I love my name, it has deep historical significance and sounds lovely when pronounced properly. My hubs on the other hand has a super jewey Yiddish name and as noble as the translation of his family name is... I'd rather our kids have a religiously neutral name. Even my very French name couldn't spare me the harassment that comes with growing up Jewish. A large nose is all it took for one young man in Amsterdam to identify me as "dirty jewess" and permit him the verbal diarrhea that followed. I was 18 and in Holland for a peace conference in honour of the 60th anniversary of D-day (2005). I was so shocked all I could do was walk away laughing. You see, I have my father's nose and his family has been christian since the fall of the Romans in France. My Jewish mother, on the other hand, has a lovely small sloping nose. The irony of the whole situation was so great, and what better way to fight hatred than ridicule it with laughter? I can only imagine the difficulties if my kids were to inherit my nose AND my husband's name. Food for thought: In western history a woman was given her father's name because she was his property. When daughter married she (and all her possessions and rights) became husband's property and she took his name. In the same way that American slaves were given their master's name....See More- 11 years ago
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