The cabinets are Ikea with walnut doors from semi-handmade. I just looked up the Ancona range on costco.com and it won't work for me, it's dual fuel, i need all gas, & it's 36", I need 30". It looks like the ILVE range may work for me also. Is there anywhere that I can find the depth of ranges from the back to the face of the door? AJ Madison is inconsistent with what their depth is measuring (on some ranges it's to the door, some to the handle, some to the front overhang).

Both Wolf and Electrolux have issues with the blue porcelain. And its a really big oops on the Wolf. Electrolux seems to have resolved their issues with blue porcelain as there are not any complaints from recent ovens. Wolf still has ongoing issues, but the repair will now be easier with the bottom as a separate piece. Search blue porcelain in this forum to read about this. Looking at cubic feet or even the depth and width of the oven can be misleading. In looking at oven size, measure the rack to see what the usable space would be and then see how your pans will fit. Look at how the convection fan takes up space in the oven. Some have the fan sticking out into the oven cavity, which might allow for a handle of a pan to hang over a rack edge. Others place a wall across the front of the fan so they can say the back of the oven is flat. Some examples Wolf Electrolux The new Wolf ovens seem to be blue. Different fans! Wolf M series illustration Wolf M series photo Also look at where the racks are and how they can be used. On Elux, at least mine, the rolling rack cannot be put on the lowest position. The regular rack can be placed there. The best feature of the Wolf is the dual fans/elements. I think that is more significant in the 36 inch width though. Whatever you buy, get the longest extended warranty you can get.

If you are extremely concerned about aging in place, then IMO the single best thing you can do re. your ovens -- whether range ovens or wall ovens -- is to ensure they have full extension racks. These let you do almost everything without physically having to reach INTO the ovens to lever something heavy out of them. Basting turkeys doesn't require removing the turkey at all; you simply slide out the rack, baste away, and slide it back in. I don't need to bend to baste in my range oven - the height of the turkey is exactly at my arm height without bending over (I'm almost 5'8"). I do have maybe a 30 degree bend at the hips to roll out the rack, but honestly by the time I can't bend 30 degrees I'll have bigger problems like not being able to get in and out of bed or sit in the 'throne room' so I'm not too worried about that since I'll be in a nursing home by then regardless. :) I went with range for the way it works and looks in my kitchen. I suppose in a couple or three decades from now I may have trouble lifting a heavy turkey out of the oven, which will maybe happen 2 or 3 times a year. But then I figure that if I'm cooking a turkey that large, there'll be kids or grandkids that can lift out the turkey. I don't envision cooking a 20 lb turkey for a totally geriatric crowd myself ... by the time i'm that old and hosting a gathering for my geriatric friends, lol, I won't be serving them a turkey dinner. :-) Anyway, that's a long winded way of saying that the decision to go range vs. cooktop/ovens is IMO largely about either looks (wall ovens = more upscale to many people) or usage patterns (e.g. if you bake a lot and wish to have a separate baking center with ovens in a baking zone separated from a cooking zone). Ergonomically, get the full extension racks whichever way you go.

I love it so far, the few extra inches of drawer space enabled me to fit all my dishes perfectly. I also enjoy the extra counter space, but since our granite was just installed on Thursday I haven't done much with it yet! We have a broken L, meaning the fridge and range is on one wall, then there's a doorway, and the sink / dishwasher / dish storage cabs are on a separate run. We only increased depth on the sink / dishwasher run, so I can't speak to the range and over range area. That said, I did consider it. I was going to have a few inches of granite behind the range, which I was really looking forward to. I didn't go that route because of concerns with walkway width between island seating and adjacent family room...the extra depth would've eaten into it. As long as you have the space and the budget (ours did cost extra), really no downside as far as I can tell. I have full extension rails with soft close, so that is available for the deeper size.