Not even a thought in my mind, Showerguard and NOTHING else. Made with the glass and a lifetime warranty.........

The glass place we used used Clear Shield on ours. They used to use Showerguard, but had stopped because they were experiencing problems with it (I don't recall what they were, but I know they mentioned them at the time). I will say, that this was around 5-6 years ago, so they could very well have switched back for all I know.

Also, we only used glass for our guest bathroom shower, so it doesn't see all that much use.

It appears that showerguard only comes in clear. I definitely want some sort of obscure pattern. Any thoughts on what would be the best coating option?

Showerguard is not intended to provide a pattern or a color; it's to help keep your glass cleaner (and easier to clean). It can baked into glass that it clear or into glass that is made with frosted or patterned areas.

I just looked at the brochure, looks like it is available etched on one side...ShowerGuard SatinDeco.

dadereni, thank you I do see the frosted version now.

Showerguard glass products

jewelisfabulous, I'm not seeing any other options. Just clear, low iron and frosted. I guess the technology might allow for other options, but they don't seem to offer them? Or where am I missing them?

I'm not liking the clear or frosted options for our space. So is there any coating option that is better than the others? Thanks!

After Showerguard the only aftermarket product I might look at would Diamon-Fusion. and I am not totally sold on that product either.

Look up Guardian Glass Co. and read their information. Their site can find dealerships near you.

Yesterday I spoke to customer service there. (855-584-5277). They manufacture 'Clear' (has green tinge), Low-Iron (no green tinge) and an obscured glass. I know the Clear and the Low-Iron can have the ShowerGuard baked into the glass; don't *know* about obscure, but why not?

Millworkman -- I asked about the UltraWhite (?) treatment for Low-Iron. They no longer use that term. It's all "ShowerGuard" now. They tell me some other manufacturer uses the term "Starphire" now, too; not them. I'm to get a call back next week, after they talk to my Maui supplier and straighten him out that the Low-Iron with ShowerGuard does NOT have a green tinge. The rep stressed that their glass comes with a *replacement* guarantee, should the ShowerGuard fail to protect the glass. (Of course, then you still have to pay someone to install it all over again!)

Chisue, isn't that the same as the link I already posted? Or are you talking about some different product? I'm confused.

Yes that is my bad as I use Starphire like the word Kleenex and Starphire is and always was a PPG trademarked name.

And I am not certain on the obscure and Showerguard either,

crl -- Yes. Your link is to Guardian Glass. Only they have the baked in protection that they call ShowerGlass. AFAIK everything else is an after market product rubbed onto glass, not so different from Rain-X for automobile windshields. I watched the Guardian Glass video showing how the protection is applied using what looks to me like an electrostatic procedure. It fuses the protection onto/into the glass. I'd say that is top notch, but hey...we're obsessing over *showers*! LOL

Actually PPG did have one but I don't think it was very good and never caught on.

Thanks everyone. I ended up choosing showerguard low iron.

crl -- May I ask how much more this was over the clear (green tinge) w/ShowerGuard. A percentage would be fine.

I really don't know. I asked how much more and was told for such a small piece of glass not much. My gc bids to include this kind of thing so he will get the bill and it won't make any difference to how much I pay (we have a total cost of the project bid).

I should probably add that the glass guy said showergaurd was definitely worthwhile and that they offered a different coating option but that it would only last a couple of years.

My email this morning contained a new message from the Guardian Glass authorized fabricator on Maui. This is for 3/8" glass 28" X 76" w/brushed nickel hinges and handle, bottom sweep.

Clear (green tinge) without coating.....$1633

Clear (green tinge) with ShowerGuard.....$1811

Low-Iron (Starphire by PPG) without coating.....$1883

Low-Iron (Starphire by PPG) with Enduroshield.....$1988

Low-Iron with ShowerGuard.....$2130 (15% more than Clear w/coating)

The new bid was prompted by a rep from Guardian Glass Co. calling the Maui fabricator to explain that today's Low-Iron w/coating does NOT have any tint. The fabricator's bad experience was with glass ordered five years ago.

The glass company rep tells me the 10-year replacement warranty on the coating is only for the purchaser. It does not transfer to a new owner. You must *register* the purchase with Guardian Glass Co. for this to take effect. (You supposedly get $20 rebate when you register...big whoop.)

Ca-Ching...

"I really don't know. I asked how much more and was told for such a small piece of glass not much. My gc bids to include this kind of thing so he will get the bill and it won't make any difference to how much I pay (we have a total cost of the project bid)."

seems a small piece is still $$

loves2read, you seem to be confusing my response and chisue's follow up as being from the same poster?

According to the pricing chisue received, the difference between clear and low iron both with showerguard is $319 if my math is right. Not chump change, but in the scope of a total gut job with substantial dry rot that had to be fixed and a new curbless shower, a very small percentage of the total cost.

Regardless, that calculation is based on chisue's numbers. I don't have numbers from my contractor and likely won't ever get those numbers. So it is very possible that in my job, that dollar amount is different. I appreciate Chisue following up because it may be very helpful to others reading this thread. But I don't think there is any reason to question my response or my glass guy's response.

My cost for the Clear versus the Low Iron Glass is approximately double per square foot. Fabrication costs would be the same for either and the Showerguard for Low Iron used to be about 50% more if I am correct in remembering.

The whole idea of frameless shower glass is ridiculously expensive, IMO. All the worse because I have to cope with Maui prices. I won't SEE this newly tiled shower until January.

Had I understood about the green tinge of 'clear' glass earlier, I would have used a blue-green tile and not off-white.

I am convinced that the ONLY protective finish I want is the ShowerGuard. After that...I'm leaning towards saving the $300 for the *next* whatsis expense.

Personally I would get the clear glass (not Low Iron). You may notice the greeinsh hue of the tile for the first day or two. There are a million and one showers that were tiled with white or off-white tile BEFORE low iron became all the rage and most people did not care because they did not know better, Yes frameless is expensive but I think it look a whole hell of a lot better than a framed hinged door, again just my two cents.

I'm with Millworkman