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Comments (46)In essence, that's how the system works now with nurseries - although the process isn't open to just anyone, necessarily, but those whom the breeder allows to propagate are entered into an agreement for compensation as long as certain rules are followed. I completely agree that the nursery industry ought to be kept on the same short leash it's already on because of the potential for abuse, but I also believe that the purchase of a patented plant should be treated somewhat as a license to own one copy of said plant, somewhat the way computer software is licensed. If private individuals are inclined to propagate the plant (i.e., request more licenses) as long as the plants are for private, non-commercial use, it would be nice to have a process for them to directly purchase the license to propagate X copies of that plant without having to deal with a middle man. Someone could easily and willingly afford to pay the hybridizer much more than the nursery industry does, and still be getting a heck of a deal over buying the plant through a nursery. Even a dollar or two per plant going to the breeder would be a significant improvement over the standard today, and this is obviously a pittance compared to what people pay for roses at the garden center. The breeder wins in this scenario. Profit from individuals wanting to purchase licenses from the breeder, with very few exceptions, is arguably not going to take away from the nursery industry's earnings on ready-for-planting patented roses. The vast majority of people are too impatient or lack the skills to propagate their own roses anyway, so it seems fair to give those who are willing a way to make and own copies permissably. In fact, the idea of having some kind of tangible "license to own" could catch on as a way to police illegally propagated or sold plant materials, not that I'm advocating anything like that without further study :) The nursery industry on the whole wins because the breeder gains financially, which ultimately stimulates the creation of more new roses that can fuel sales. They are too short-sighted and profit-driven to realize that paying a bit more to the breeder ultimately helps their own bottom line, but it would. Finally, average-Joe-gardener wins because there is more freedom of choice, less fear of having to do something illegitimately because there is a reasonable, affordable alternative, and because the better-compensated breeder can afford to generate even more roses. I'm sure I haven't thought of everything, but it is something that's crossed my mind on a number of occasions. There are probably all kinds of horrendous side effects to this kind of good idea....See MoreVintage Gardens - One of a Kind Sale!
Comments (51)I didn't order anything this time around, though I was tempted by 'Aimee Vibert'. I ordered more than enough bands earlier this year to fill any site I can possibly consider. Amazingly, there still seem to be some good roses on Vintage's lists today. I got the rambler 'Mary Lovett', still listed, earlier this year and I am totally impressed by the fineness of the foliage and blooms (one parent is 'Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria', after all) and it does, indeed, rebloom (pretty good for a rambler). The blooms strike me as the essence of purity. And that legend of all time, "Vina Banks" was still listed (one glimpse of a photo of it at the Sac. Cemetery should seal the deal, and it has no prickles). Neither of these roses are, so far, listed as available from any other vendor in the U.S. on HMF. Judith, I got 'Bouquet Tout Fait' earlier this year and am totally smitten. Large blooms for a noisette, beautiful scent, and obviously a very willing bloomer; ethereal. Photo from today:...See MoreVintage Rose Order...I finally did it.
Comments (15)Thanks for chiming in! Sherry, I did a search on the forum and saw your post about your Francesca being zapped..glad it's recovering. I'll be planting mine where it will be shielded from the afternoon sun. As for Pharisaer, it's a gamble. I almost got Soleil d'Or until I found out it was a blackspot disaster. I spray, so we'll see what happens...being an alternate, I might not even get it. They'll be coming the last week of April. The snow and ice wasn't too bad..it takes the first "event" of the season to get everybody back into Winter driving mode. Janelle, I would love to visit the cemetery sometime. I like them, even better with roses. Judith, that's good to hear about Royal Sunset :) You feel like it about how I feel about my Abe Darbys. I love Royal's colors. The form and color remind me of some of the tender climbing teas and noisettes that wouldn't do well here. Regardless, it sounds it'll be a winner. Thanks, and love to hear more! Eric...See MorePink Pearl from Vintage Gardens needs a new home
Comments (53)Pink Pearl is now in the ground as of 6/8/19 and has been blooming a second flush for a full month already. She added at least three new basals and filled out more once planted in the ground. The foliage remains perfect and is held more horizontally than the drapey foliage she grew in the pot. She is even more gorgeous than I had any hope of her being. Above was the early bloom starting a month ago. The higher photos are a month later and she is still going. Thank you, Melody for this rose treasure....See Morejerijen
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