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Need help with big party

elba1
8 years ago

Hi folks, my daughter just graduated from high school. We will be having a large (likely over 60 people) graduation party for her in a few weeks at our home from 3-7pm. We don't have a large house, so hoping for good weather! We only have one refrigerator and an upright freezer. I prefer homemade food, but there is no way I can do all of it, time and space wise, and we want to keep the costs "reasonable." Here is what I am thinking so far: I bought 18# of pork today - will make pulled pork tomorrow in my large Nesco and freeze it. Will serve it with rolls and make a large green salad. Found the best place in town to buy a large 6 foot grinder, more if needed (would do 1/2 Italian/1/2 American) - comes with macaroni salad, potato salad and coleslaw made in store - I sampled the macaroni salad and coleslaw today - they were good - not too "mayonaisey" or vinegary or sweet. They were out of potato salad, I will go back to sample that. Is that enough for the main course? Should I make a big pot of meatballs or something else as well?l

For dessert, lots of homemade cookies, which I'll start making and freezing - was thinking chocolate chip, chocolate crinkles (I feel they taste "brownie like"), and my daughter thought maybe sugar cookies that could be decorated with frosting, etc. if desired. I will also have some that are gluten free for my nephew. A big vanilla Costco cake, and watermelon. How does that sound? Would ice cream or anything else be an important addition?

For appetizers, I'll make spinach dip - would like to know how to season it without the typical soup mix - with raw veggies and potato chips. A big bowl of salsa with tortilla chips, and I was thinking buffalo chicken dip - I would cook and shred the chicken ahead of time and freeze it. Maybe also a bowl of popcorn and those veggie sticks - kids seem to snack on those things. What do you think of the appetizers, any other suggestions, I think I need something else a little "hearty"?

For beverages I'm a little stumped. I guess I should have some obligatory soda, but it all says high fructose corn syrup, etc. and diet is no better. Even some powdered lemonade and ice tea says "partially hydrogenated soybean oil" etc. I would have a way to make large batches ahead and keep it cold, so we'll have to rely on store bought ice. I can get some seltzers, and flavor some water with fresh fruit, but that might not satisfy most? For alcohol, we'll have beer and wine. What is the minimum types of hard liquor some folks might expect - gin for gin and tonic, and whiskey for something? I'm not much of a drinker, but some alcohol would be expected.

Thanks so much in advance. I like to have small groups over, but I don't like to host big parties - I don't feel "in control," and it just seems really overwhelming.


Comments (40)

  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    Thought I should add that the party is for family and friends - more adults than kids, and the alcohol is obviously for the adults only, which won't be a problem.

  • marcopolo5
    8 years ago

    I hope you will have a few helpers you can count on. It hard to enjoy the party and visit with people if you are doing everything. Your menu sounds good. Maybe a non mayo pasta salad for any vegetarians? Ice cream would be a nightmare with July temps. Plus using a lot of freezer space. Hope the weather is really nice and not a worry.

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  • elba1
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    Like folks said, I want to keep it simple, but I also want everyone to feel "nicely fed," if that makes sense, which is why I was looking for some direction - to find that balance. I do not believe there are any vegetarians in this crowd. I will skip the watermelon slices in favor of a simple, large fruit platter - which may include cut up watermelon, grapes strawberries. I will put all the suggestions into a document and read it again in case I missed anything. Thanks also for your congratulations everyone - that is so thoughtful. We will be empty nesters in the fall! We are so proud of our kids - our son has Aspergers, but he just successfully completed his first year of college, and you helped last year with his Eagle Scout ceremony preparations. Our daughter is in the top 10 of her class - our hearts are full!

  • plllog
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    And I agree about the 2 liter bottles of soda.....and don't stress about the high fructose stuff....this is a party not something you do every day. And frankly I would also use powdered lemonade>
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    Then you will have a "drinks station" where you have tubs of ice a stack of solo cups (and a marker) bottles of sodas pitchers of tea and lemonade and a spigot container of water.
    Then you have your dessert table....with an assortment of cookies and bars and a platter or bowl of fruit.
    And I would suggest in a different spot a bar table with more cups and a marker and your wine and beer in tubs of ice and your bottles of liquor on the table> You know your crowd, but this time of the year lots of people want vodka and tonic....so have limes and tonic and perhaps club soda.
    Sounds like a great party and remember the KISS principle....

    Our church does a "social" as a fund raiser every summer. The last one was a month ago. We served BBQ pork and turkey in gravy on a bun, slaw, potato salad and beans......we regularly plan for 300....so I have had lots of experience with the numbers on the food for this kind of a meal.....this past year we were scarily close....almost nothing left over!!

  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    Thanks again! I appreciate the lemonade & iced tea suggestions - if I'm stressed for time, I will go the powdered route, but great to know the preferred methods - had no idea about the need to pasteurize the tea.

    A 6' grinder serves "42 hungry people" - I'll adjust food amounts based on final total.

    "BBQ adjacent" - great idea! I think I may do that and perhaps skip the grinder for more of a homemade feel to the meal. Linda, would your recipe work with chicken instead of turkey, or does it taste better with turkey? Another thought I had was making a crockpot full of buffalo chicken dip and serving that on rolls instead of as an appetizer since it's always such a hit, and my daughter eats it like that sometimes. But the BBQ suggestion is healthier - doesn't have gobs of cream cheese in it. I do plan on getting gluten free rolls from a great little bakery. I'm great about using/freezing leftovers, but as you said, since the meats will already have been frozen, I will likely send any leftovers home that we can't use with older relatives who would really appreciate it. I'll go for the baked beans too.

    My Nesco is 18 qts. I don't know anyone else that owns one. I think my large crock pot will be plenty big for the baked beans, as I know they will not be "universally" popular. I don't own any chafing dishes - maybe I'll have to get 1 big disposable one from a party store for the second meat dish. Oh my gosh, do you know me?! The whiskey is for Aunt Mary lol! I don't think it will a particular popular beverage - one bottle will have to do - I guess also with a big bottle of gin and vodka with whatever I need with it. I don't think a lot of people will go for the hard liquor, but I think I need to set out a few things - I really want to minimize money spent on alcohol.

    Thanks for confirming the big bottles vs. small cans. I checked the ethnic section of the grocery store today and saw "Sumol" - carbonated orange, passion fruit or pineapple beverages - $2.29 for 1.5 liters - twice the cost of soda. I also thought about a table of mix and match juice and seltzers, but maybe most people really just want the soda?

    I also think I'll need more potato salad than coleslaw - not everyone will be big on coleslaw, but most would take some potato salad. Thanks for helping me think this through!

  • lindac92
    8 years ago

    The BBQ recipe works fine with chicken....but turkey is cheaper....at least it was until this bird flu thing....but chicken will work fine.
    You can use a Styrofoam cooler to keep a roasting pan full of meat hot....they are cheap!!

  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    Ok, thank you!

  • grandmamary_ga
    8 years ago

    We have done a graduation party for our granddaughter a couple of years ago. We made barbecue sliders. We bought the pork butts on sale and I think we had 3 of them. They were cooked in Nesco roasters. I have several of them. Her mother made potato salad, cole slaw and macaroni salad. We had chips and salsa. For drinks we had bottled water, ice tea, lemonade and sodas for those who wanted them. No alcohol was served We had several types of dessert. Food was on the dining room table inside the house and we had plenty of seating outside with tables available for those who needed one. It lasted from noon to 5. People could come when they wanted and stay as long as they wanted.

  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    Thanks, sounds like a similar menu to what we are planning! The party is Aug 1st, and we just sent out the invites the beginning of this week, so we don't yet know exactly how many to expect, but my best guess is around 60. I'm so hoping for good weather and would like to have everything outside. (A few older relatives will likely remain indoors at the dining table, plus my dad needs to be hooked up to oxygen, but hopefully everything else will be outdoors.) We picked 3-7pm so the kids can do some swimming - we have a small above ground pool, and then the teens might also stay for s'mores around the firepit while the relatives and other friends head home. I regularly have small groups of people over, it's just this larger number has me really anxious.

  • plllog
    8 years ago

    Large groups are just "the family" for me so here's some unasked for advice. It might be worthwhile to have a prophylactic snaking of your pipes. Right around a big party people get more careless with what goes down the drain, more people are in the house and using the facilities, a lot more food prep is happening, etc. The worst thing is having the toilet back up during a big party. Sometimes it's because a little kid put down a whole roll of paper at once, which can't be prevented, but if it's a clog, or tree roots, or something that didn't back up under normal use, it can be a huge problem.

    Designate a place for purses, wraps, etc., so that people won't be stashing them all over for others to trip on and be constantly moving. If you have a garment rack, that's great. A made bed in one of the bedrooms is fine. An office or workout room--a place you won't be using during the party also works fine. Make sure a lot of people know, so that as things get more busy, they'll great newcomers and tell them where to put their things.

    Also have a space reserved for unexpected food offerings and be prepared to defend your kitchen from people who come in demanding serving pieces, fridge space, etc. Tell them to put their food in the designated space and you'll get to it when you're free. Make sure you have some containers and bags ready, perhaps out where the unexpected food gets set down, so that people can retrieve their dishes without bugging you, and you're ready to go with those leftovers you intend to send home with the elders.

    There will be hostess gifts and gifts for the graduate, so you'll need a table/area for them. If there's a responsible tween or an elder who wants to help but really can't lift stuff and all, put that person in charge of the gift table, with post-its and a pen, and some tape. Often gifts, especially hostess gifts, don't have cards or tags! Putting a post-it on all of them, including the ones with cards (which inevitably fall out), makes for much less confusion when it comes time to write thank-you notes. The post-it can be moved to the box/item as it's unwrapped, as well.

    Know what you're going to do if it rains. Maybe the coats shift from the office to your bedroom (you can put one of those blue vinyl utility tarps on the bed), and the food gets set up in the office. Do you have TV tables, floor pillows and the like? Make sure everyone knows that the furniture is for the elderly, heavily pregnant and injured. Since it'll be a press, make sure you have a safe place to seat your dad where people won't bash into his oxygen. You can also clear off your coffee table, and end tables of whatever usually sits there before the party, so people will have spots to set things. If they're fine wood, get a bunch of cork coasters (dozens! They're cheap) and strew them all around. Again, do that well before the party. Also strew around piles of cocktail napkins. Also have a place designated for wet/muddy shoes--maybe some trays with newspaper or something, and some big buckets for umbrellas. In other words, prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

    You're doing this absolutely right, facing the unknown head on. By thinking through the what-ifs and having plans, you'll find that the party itself is a breeze, and a lot of fun. Exhausting, but fun. :)


  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    Thanks so much for your sound advice - I hadn't said it, but that's one of my big concerns - that many people coming in and out of the house to use the toilet! I know it will be exhausting - I hope you're right that it will be fun too! I've been a gardening maniac trying to get the yard looking nice, another reason I hope the weather is good, or no one will even notice!

  • lindac92
    8 years ago

    Don't sweat the potty issues. People are not spending all day at your party, likely most won't use it all. And I sure wouldn't do anything like call rotorooter before hand!!
    It will be fine....just be prepared before, put out the food, smile pretty and enjoy!....when the guests are gone....tackle the clean up!!
    I never use paper plates, because I have many many china plates and "real" silverware. So I just stack the dishes and work on them a dishwasher load at a time. But it avoids all those trash bags and bins full of paper goods.....however I do use paper napkins and glasses,,,,but for stemmed wines.

  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    Thanks. I was also thinking that - if it's only 4 hours, hopefully it won't get used that much. That's also part of the reason I listed an ending time - of course we won't kick everyone out at 7pm, but if it says 3-7pm, "eating and drinking all night" won't be expected. I noticed that at another grad party that was 4-8pm - those that were still around respectfully left around 8pm. It's funny all the thoughts that go through my head about this, but every time I read these posts, I think of something else. I am big on saving the environment, but I do not have dinner/silverware for 60 people, so we'll be going with paper goods. I was just thinking I should buy some of those short clear plastic wide mouth cups for the wine (I always have the red solo cups on hand).

  • lindac92
    8 years ago

    The short clear glasses are nicer, I think for wine.
    Years and years ago I realized what a considerable cost to a party paper goods are. I was....and am an auction and sale goes and realized that $10 spent on a dozen plain white plates would serve lots of people for minimum outlay, and have been collecting ever since. I now have about 50 plain white porcelain plates that cost $1.00 or less each. They have earned their keep many times over!
    And then there are the 2 dozen English pink ones....and the dozen white Bavarian with the gold rim......and....well let's just say I like dishes!!

  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    That's great! The storage in our house is terrible, and I don't want to regularly serve 50 people lol :). We have an annual church fair, and I know people who pick up some plates there to leave with someone when they donate a cake, etc, so they don't have to worry about getting their plate back. I tend to use paper goods if I have more than a dozen guests (which is my husband's side - he's one of 6.) I get them from Costco, so they last a long time.

    Another thing I've been contemplating is that homemade mac and cheese is always a big hit, and would be loved more than macaroni salad. For my daughter's confirmation, I made it before church, then put it on low in a crock pot, and it was good to go when we got home. I don't know how I would manage a much larger amount, and if it would be worth the trouble. My friend is having a grad party for her son tomorrow, and she will be serving some for 40 guests, so I'll see what she does.

  • lindac92
    8 years ago

    I wouldn't add another dish...particularly one you will have to keep hot.
    Your party is from 3 to 7....and those who come at 3 are not going to be ready to dig in to a big meal....they will want munchies and maybe cookies. And some who come early may leave before eating the meat and potatoes. If you are going to add anything else, I would add some snack items or more cookies.
    Do you plan on having the hot dishes on the table at 3?

  • plllog
    8 years ago

    You don't need another hot dish for a hot day, and not serving everyone's favorite at every party makes them that much happier when you do serve it. :) Add that to the fact that someone else is making the macaroni salad, why add to your list of to-dos?

    I like Linda's confidence about your plumbing, but you should judge that yourself based on its actual performance, like if it needs snaking every so often but hasn't been done recently, or if it's ever been overloaded by the smaller crowds you're used to. I can't count how many parties I've been to (at least more than I have fingers) where just before or during the party there have been backups. Another common problem is a faucet failure, but if it only drips, it will suffice and can be fixed later. If the valve goes, you have to shut off the water under the sink.

    Re dishes, paper vs. thrift shop is also a calculus of how much water you have (I'm always inventing new ways of not dirtying a dish because we have severe drought and water restrictions) and how clumsy your guests are. China is heavy, and not so good for standing around, munching and schmoozing, plus even in the dishwasher it takes a goodly amount of water to wash up. Outside, you also have the issue of what happens if a dish gets dropped. Shattering china or glass makes shards that are nearly impossible to clear from bricks or pavers, and are impossible to clear from turf. I agree with Linda about how nice it is to have proper dishes, but it doesn't sound like the right choice for the kind of party you're planning. I'm with you on the paper and plastic. It's easier, but it's also safer.

  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    Ok, thanks. I plan on having the appetizers/munchies out for the first hour - so that will be the snacks, as folks are just arriving, then setting out the main course around 4 or so. I will have lots of cookies set out with the cake for dessert - at least double batches of 3 kinds. I think everyone that does come will eat the main course. I was just thinking that homemade mac and cheese would go with the BBQ theme, especially if I have enough food confidence to skip the sub - the pulled pork, the turkey/chicken recipe, coleslaw, baked beans, potato salad, green salad because I always appreciate it - was thinking folks - especially the younger set would be more excited to see mac & cheese than macaroni salad. We went to a grad party last weekend that was all catered - an eclectic mix of food - and the teens really went for the mac & cheese.

  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    plllog, I was typing as you posted - just saw it. "Knock on Wood," we've never had a problem or had to have it snaked, so I think we'll take our chances and hope for the best - I'll let you know if "told you so" is warranted after the fact! I do go with paper if it's more than 1 dishwasher full, as after a party I am tired! So paper it will be. Guess I'll skip the mac and cheese, didn't want to do it, it just sounded good :).

  • sleevendog (5a NY 6aNYC NL CA)
    8 years ago

    I think you have a great menu. All the do-aheads are very smart, especially the desert cookies.

    Even veggies, fruit and melon can be cut the day before. Lacking fridge space is always trouble. Mac-n-cheese can be made ahead and frozen but you do have the full morning before...but not great having so many chores the day of.

    I have a neighbor that has offered her oven and fridge space. It was handy for the cold salads and re-heating pies. All our meats are on the grill and get prime real estate in the center of our table and come off as the different items are done so no oven hogs. We had an annual 4th party for years and it always rained. So have a plan just in case. (just rained this past 4th but too busy to have the party)

    We don't stock much alcohol but i agree some like it for parties. I keep it inside with an ice bucket and lemon slices and twists, olives and mixed nuts. Cheese straws if i think of it. Bourbon, scotch, gin, vodka and rum. I do buy small screw cap misc mixers and always surprised what some like but not my business....i just have some choices. (I so dis-like the leftover sodas)

    Those that want mixed drinks find it and know what to do.

    Beer, wine and misc soda outside in a cooler with ice.

    I don't see a snack appy mentioned. Not necessary but something that can be plattered and maybe offered by your daughter and her friends to get them to mingle a bit with the elders, lol. I don't feel that old but teens think of us as old. Might be nice if they walked around a couple times with offerings the first hour and then again later with sweets. (stuffed cherry tomatoes, or mushrooms or something with puff pastry.) DH makes bruschetta on the grill, rubs with garlic and tops with my salsa. Our only early app.

    I don't think anyone expects a big full meal and some will just nibble. Especially in all this heat. Teens and twenties eat allot...40's 50's and above not so much. Though you know your crowd best.

    I also have plates and bowls for a hundred or more. But the small Costco 8inch paper are sturdy and fine for a summer outdoor party. A couple dozen real glass glasses inside with the alcoholies (i did not say alcoholics, lol...auto correct tried to correct me ten times.) i do like a nice martini once a year. But not in plastic. (hard liquor will start to react with some plastics...melt and leak), A small sleeve of plastic is a nice offer for wine. Some care, and some are fine with plastic. A few glasses is nice if someone is fussy.

    I don't eat much at parties but i would and always will have a nice fat helping of anyones mac-n-cheese, : ) An indulgence everyone likes.



  • lindac92
    8 years ago

    In the 34 years that I have lived in this house, I have had easily 55 parties of 40 or more....always used real china....never had one beak.
    Well I take that back....one party where we had folding tables set up all over the yard. The party was over and I was cleaning up and had stacked a bunch of plates and cups and saucers on one table, Tied the dog's leash to the table leg ( what was I thinking!) while I went and picked the dishes up from another table....and she tried to follow me and pulled the table over. I broke 4 plates and a coffee cup. Also never have been to a party where the plumbing failed....but for one of mine, and that was a new dishwasher that had been installed improperly.
    I always think that whatever water I use to wash dishes is less harmful to the environment than using a trash barrel full of plasticized paper plates.
    You are right....kids are crazy for Mac and cheese. So depending on how many kids you are expecting, plan on at least 5 pounds of macaroni...plus the cheese etc. If you do decide to serve it have lots and cut back on the potato salad.
    And remember....enjoy the party and don't worry about cleaning all up immediately. Put the food away and the rest can wait!

    And...just for kicks, keep track of how much you spend on throw away paper goods...plates, cups, napkins, one use foil pans, table cloths etc. And that's why I have a stack of picnic cloths I made in the top of a closet and stacks of plates in the basement and boxes of stemmed glasses hiding here and there.

  • plllog
    8 years ago

    Elba, no I told you so's will be coming from me! If you've never had an issue, the plumbing should be fine. It's definitely a use your own good judgment thing.


  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    Thanks plllog :).

    Sleevendog, thanks for the feedback! I would cut the fruit and veggies the day before, and you are right about the lack of fridg space, which is why I couldn't do all the sides if I wanted to. I invited the next door neighbors - I think they have a 2nd fridg in their garage. If they can come, I may ask to use some space.

    My plan is to totally freak out if it rains lol. Seriously, we'd probably just use all the living spaces in the house - we do not have a large house, but have a somewhat open floor plan for living room, dining and kitchen areas, a "den" where a few more could sit and watch TV if any games are on, and a finished downstairs, small, where kids could play the WII, etc. Certainly couldn't seat everyone, though. I could borrow/rent a large tent, but that might not be too pleasant. Our garage would be impossible to clear out by then.

    I do have to fine tune the snacks/appys - will have fruit and veggie platters with a couple dips and various "chips." If I do the BBQ turkey/chicken I'll pass on the buffalo chicken dip appy. I'll give it more thought - thanks for the suggestions.

    I think most folks will expect a big, full meal, at least all the relatives coming a bit of a distance - 1-2 hrs. Wow - you have dinnerware for 100 or more - I'm amazed! Never heard of hard liquor melting plastic - that would be a site to see! If anyone asks for a real glass, I will certainly oblige. Sounds like a vote for the mac & cheese. I could make it that day. I'm going to see if my friend uses sternos at her son's grad party tomorrow, and if so, may borrow.

    If all goes well, I may ask for help next year - I'll turn 50 and the thought crossed my mind to throw a big celebration with all the women who have been a part of my life over the years. If I can do this, I could do that too :).

    Lindac, if you entertain that much there are bound to be stories of the good, the bad, and the ugly, right?! I was thinking that - more than 4# macaroni - that's a lot of cheese too! I use a spinoff of The Best Recipe stovetop version, and I have a large pot, but I don't think big enough to stir all that up. I guess I'll play that one by ear, as I don't have to order any food till a few days prior to the event. I already have the big boxes of forks, spoons, knives, plates, and solo cups from Costco, and got theme colored napkins and plastic tablecloths (I save if I can clean them and they don't get ripped) $1 per package. If I regularly had big parties I'd be more inclined to buy stuff, but I wouldn't have room to store it - I have to keep the Nesco in the garage!

  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    If I don't do the sub and do the turkey/chicken BBQ, maybe I should have an antipasto type platter (one relative always has cheese and crackers and pepperoni that gets eaten as an appy) with the fruit and veggie platters and chips and dips to replace the buffalo chicken dip.

  • moosemac
    8 years ago

    Side note to the plumbing issue: If you are on well water make sure you have a back up generator on hand to run the well pump, no water no flush toilet. Summer is thunderstorm aka power outage season. Ask me how I know....LOL


  • lindac92
    8 years ago

    You don't have room to store all that stuff....cut veggies and fruits etc. Can you possibly order out the mac and cheese? You're going to make yourself crazy!
    Plan out your plan of attack....when you will make what and where you will store it. Then who will buy what and where you will store that....and how you will thaw and re-heat what needs to be reheated. Realize that it will take a LOOONG time to thaw a gallon of pulled pork or shredded turkey....and to be safe it should be defrosted in the refrigerator...or a picnic cooler and the temperature carefully monitored so it stays cool until it's ready to be heated. You don't want to give people food poisioning.
    Hard liquor won't melt any kind of plastic....it's not a solvent for anything like that.
    And take advantage of all the neighbor's refrigerator and oven space that you can....and don't over look the grill to heat things...or keep them warm....and use all the picnic coolers you can find.
    Yes...have a few stories...like the time I invited 2 people who used to be married, with their present spouses....figured out it was fine....but one man's new wife had a fit and spent 3 hours cowering by the front door lest she run into her husband's ex wife!
    And there was the sweet young thing who went upstairs and went to bed in my teenaged daughter's bed....and when daughter came home, we had to wake her so my daughter could go to bed, and the time that our pastor and his wife who invited to our new years Eve party, came after another party at 4 AM....because there were lights on and they knew we were up. And the time the dog drank the drippings from the keg and got so drunk she almost couldn't get up the steps into the house, or the time I bought cheap plastic watering cans to fill with flowers for table decorations....and a couple of them leaked...luckily that was an outside party....and the wedding shower where the groom had to be helped out the door. And the time I decided I could make pizza for 45 kids and had crusts and pepperoni and a vat of sauce....and grated 10 pounds of cheese by hand!!..Took me 3 days to clean the oven after that!


  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    Thanks moosemac, we did get a generator after 3 years in a row of "the storm of the century." Of course we haven't lost power since :).

    I know lindac, you are absolutely right, I don't have room to store all that. I might order the mac and cheese, thanks for saying it.

    The pulled pork is in 3 of the gallon freezer bags in our downstairs freezer. I lost a pound after I shredded it all - quite a workout lol! I guess I have to take it out a day or two ahead. My son has a small dorm fridg he brought home - we could plug it in - it would help a little. Another good idea that the grill could warm things. I might try to borrow coolers - we only have 1 old, faded, hard sided one that isn't very big, but we really don't use it. We have a smaller soft sided one for an afternoon at the beach. I was thinking of telling my husband to go buy one nice new cooler - whatever he wants, to have on hand; just don't want to waste money or space on items for one party that lasts a few hours.

    Wow, those are some stories!

  • lindac92
    8 years ago

    go buy a couple of those Styrofoam ones....cost a couple of $$ and will be good for all sorts of stuff...I keep one in my car, keeps ice cream cold on the way home from the store.


  • elba1
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    I might end up doing that. I do keep a few foldable soft sided coolers in the trunk with my recycle store bags to take shopping, but none of the soft side ones will take ice - they would leak.

  • l pinkmountain
    8 years ago

    FANTASTIC! Hope you will enjoy the leftovers! Glad to hear you survived! And kudos to you for all the yardwork and cooking. Doing both takes a lot of skills!

  • plllog
    8 years ago

    Congratulations! Having too much is far better than having too little, and having enough shade is the difference between a great time and an epic fail. You did great! Most importantly, it sounds like everyone had a good time, which, in the end, is what it's all about.

  • cathyinpa
    8 years ago

    So happy for you Elba! Not realizing this was an old thread, I started reading your first post with my wheels spinning 100 mph, thinking, "oh my goodness." So glad that I noticed the 37 comments and realized that I could scroll down and look at everyone's great responses:)

    I know that you created wonderful memories for your daughter and your guests. Job well done!

    Cathy in SWPA

  • dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
    8 years ago

    For outdoor parties, people spend a lot of time planning food and drinks, a few things also are important to plan for:

    1. Lots of sunscreen lotions for guests.

    2. Lots of insect repellent. Mosquitoes enjoy outdoor parties.

    3. Insect screens to cover food and drinks. Bees will dive into sweets. Flies can smell food miles away and they will invite their friends.

    4. Don't count on weather. If you have a smallish house, a couple of rental tents can be very cheap.

    dcarch



  • amck2
    8 years ago

    Congratulations! Glad to learn it all went well. Hope you can put your feet up and take a well-deserved break.

    My DS & DIL married overseas and did not want a formal event venue reception here in the U.S. So we hosted a gathering similar to yours at our lake place for family to greet the couple during a visit after their wedding. It was five years ago but I still get exhausted just thinking about it. It was very gratifying, though, and a confidence builder to have pulled it off.