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Cell phone towers?

Giving this a long shot in the dark because I don't know where else to post this and I know this forum has quite a bit of traffic to it, but long story short I'm looking for information from other cell phone tower owners/people who have a tower on their land.

On with the story... Four or so years ago a big name phone company contacted my dad about some property that they were interested in putting a tower on. Great. We were picked, they are good tenants, 600 a month rent, mind you we are very rural I've read that rent in the city is $3,000.00+ a month for a good spot on a building.

Now here's where I would love to talk with others... For the last year and a half we have had company represtitives call wanting to buy out our lease, low ball offers at first, but the offers keep going up. It's all lump sum and then they get another company to put a tower on their tower and you would get a cut of the 2nd companies rent. Three or four months ago I was looking into cell phone tower lawyers. but they see all out of Georgia and down south. Damnit I want someone that I can talk to in person, and who is in it for my interest! When I was calling around to the lawyers in the area, (Google telecommunications lawyer...try to say that three times fast.... Bahaha) All of the lawyers I talked to would be the lawyers for the said, big four companies... I talked to a few and all they said was "dear we would be the ones opposing you".... Well s#+-! Ok... Now where?

Google is no help, no forums, it's like the area 51 of cell phone towers. Don't ask don't tell... A family four miles down the road has the competitors cell phone tower on their land and we get a better deal. Ours is about a hundred or so feet taller and a few years newer, but they have been getting offers and they just hang up on them and aren't interested. Not that we are interested in selling off, because I feel that 600 a month for 30 year least with a 10% raise to the rent every 5 years is better than a lump sum of anything....

My hang up is this... Why can't we as the little guy in the big pond have to use a third party company to buy out our lease and then get another phone company on our tower? Why can't we forgo using the third party and market our tower for the other two companies that have no! And I mean zero service in our area? I mean.. I guess it would be nice if I could talk to a damn lawyer about it... As the saying goes... Poop in one hand and want in the other and see which one gets full first.. And thats how it's probably going to go..

If it makes any difference, the said cell phone company also started to sell off its towers to a company that is going to manage them for the cell phone companies. They were the ones who contacted us a few months ago about buying us out and putting another company on the tower.

And as of yesterday we got a call from another lawyer wanting to add another 15 years to the contract.. What are they gonna do if we don't want to.... Lol pick it up and move it... I just want to talk to a person! A lawyer not a damn paralegal!

Anyone have any experience with this kind of thing??

Signed..

Someone who is going to inherit a cell phone tower...


Comments (11)

  • 11 years ago

    Just MPO...unless you need the income from the lease...I would not renew the lease and I would insist the cell phone company remove their tower.

    Food for thought....at some point in time you may wish to sell the land...all of it...and potential buyers may not wish to have a high cell tower anywhere on the land. Ergo..it will have a detrimental effect on property sale/value.

    Another thought...if you decide to sell the land...there's really no telling what this current cell phone company...or a future buyer of that cell phone tower company...will do with the land. They could add more towers or communication equipment. They could request a permanent egress route if there isn't one now. How would that effect your privacy/property? Their future equipment might interfere with your home communication/electronic equipment. Local laws may prohibit some things...but this company has a much bigger voice and more money to go back to the town for variances that might not please you.

    Last of my thoughts but not the least...the tower company/companies might go bust! It's happened in my neck of the woods. They don't have the funds to remove their equipment and the property owner is either stuck with the monstrosity on their property...or to pay for removal themselves [costly]...or to take the defunct company to court for any number of contract infractions requiring them to remove the tower or them pay for its removal. Any way you look at this scenario...it's costly both financially and mentally.

    All tolled...I personally don't like the deal at all and would extricate myself from the entire project as soon as you legally are able.


    Yepitsdevon (zone 5a-6b) thanked User
  • 11 years ago

    You need to consult with a lawyer practicing in this geographical area who specializes in real estate law.


    Yepitsdevon (zone 5a-6b) thanked Elmer J Fudd
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Steelintheair.com is the lawyers down south, but call me old fashioned but I want to talk to someone who isn't 9 hrs or 600+ miles away from myself.. Already tried the real estate lawyers, they are fuzzy about it, not many people talk about their towers! I've read many of times about how a tower affects real estate, but this tower is on farm land. Access to it has already been made, and actually they improved what we already had and they have to maintain it.. They want another couple hundred square feet, sure, the rent would be more per month than the few bushel of beans or corn that would be produced per year on that parcel of land..

    And as for the income.. I think that's what dad had in mind when he had it put on the property, and why I'm opposed to getting a lump sum. I'm not over my ears in debt, and having a known steady paycheck monthly for years sounds like a good idea..

    As for getting rid of the S. O. B... I can always put a free scrap sign on it and it wouldn't take long for it to be gone...

    ;-)

  • 11 years ago

    That's why I said to contact them and ask them for a referral in your area. It's their expertise I am sure they know everyone else in the same game. No harm to make a phone call.

    Yepitsdevon (zone 5a-6b) thanked ravencajun Zone 8b TX
  • 11 years ago

    LOL I like your attitude, Devon!

    The abandoned tower near me was on farm land, too. And...I do believe they used your method to get it removed. The tower owner had...note the past tense...been a personal friend of the farm owner and begged him for use of his property so he could test his new cell tower design. Currently...I think it's similar to the Hatfields and McCoys saga. The tower is finally gone. The farmer is happy. But the tower owner ended up skipping town....at the end of something cylindrical. LOL


    Yepitsdevon (zone 5a-6b) thanked User
  • 11 years ago

    My mother had a tower, although not a cell tower, on property she inherited from my grandfather. Time came to renegotiate the contract, she upped the previous price, added a specific TIME LIMIT as to how long the tower could stay in place. (10 years) AND had included in the contract that if a new contract wasn't put in place, the company had to take the tower down in XX amount of time at THEIR expense.

    15 yrs later, she sold that piece of property -- and it brought top dollar. More so because the tower was gone.

    Good luck!


  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Had a friend who negotiated these contracts, sorry lost touch with her, she moved somplace in CA. Just based on my old conversations with her, I would ask for what you would love to have - the $ amount and lease length. You may be surprised when they give it to you.

    To find a attorney, perhaps contact your nearest city that has cell towers and ask for the name of their attorney who negtiated the contract.

  • 11 years ago

    FWIW, a decade or so ago a friend told me that a company approached them about putting a cell tower on their bit of land & the rent was $10,000 per month! I don't know if it ever happened tho. We are rather rural.

    Good luck in finding a lawyer, as that seems to be the way to go.

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    LOL, I would be careful asking for 10K a month, as your neighbor would probably be happy with 9.5K per month. Suggest being somewhat reasonable. The plus is you already have a tower which saves them some $.

  • 11 years ago

    Do any cities, counties, or the like have cell towers in your area? Often cities will put them on water towers and the like. Those contracts would most likely be negotiated by the city/county attorneys or you could easily find out who did represent them and you could even have the extra benefit of being able to see the paperwork on it. Simple GDPA request would make it available, you might have to pay for copies if you wanted copies but there's ways to save money on that too. You could then consult those attorneys either for a referral or to have them represent you