LA Dreamin hydrangeas aren't growing upright
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Aren't english roses just modern hp's?
Comments (29)In my experience some of the early "English Roses" exhibit a growth habit very similar to what we associate with the Hybrid Perpetuals; i.e. long lanky canes that only bloom at the tips. However, the English Roses are in all actuality a very mixed bag when it comes to growth habits and remontancy. For example, my favorite English Rose MOLINUEX exhibits a growth habit and repeat bloom similar to a Floribunda. HERITAGE has always reminded me of the Bourbons (although the pale warm pink color is more on par with the Alba MAIDEN'S BLUSH) and THE PILGRIM looks like a Tea-Noisette (the light green foliage, climbing canes, delicate yellow flowers and Tea Rose fragrance are the selling points). Then there is WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE 2000, which has flowers that are dead ringers for a highly developed Gallica combined with a short, spreading shrub. It is of my opinion that what David Austin is really trying to achieve is a class of remontant Centifolias. These are the "Old Rose Hybrids" he seems to favor. The flower form is more globular (i.e. cabbage like) than the quartered, cupped or semi-double formation found with so many of the Old Garden Roses. Growth habit is medium in height and bushy to slightly spreading in habit. Remontancy is continuous, similar to a Floribunda or a shrub rose like BELINDA'S DREAM. Disease resistance is steadily improving, with THE MAYFLOWER representing a true success in this area. Fragrance is strong and intense. Among his "Old Rose Hybrids" he seems to favor bouquets dominated by the classic Damask scent, but as we've seen isn't adverse to putting out a myrrh scented rose. All these factors add up to what I think David Austin is trying to achieve in his breeding programs. BTW, speaking of Myrrh - I hate it. The scent first appeared among David Austin's roses with the once blooming CONSTANCE SPRY, which is the result of a cross between BELLE ISIS (Gallica) x DAINTY MAID (Floribunda). I've been told it's strong myrrh fragrance is sweeter than most, but I really can't say for sure because I don't grow once bloomers. I do have a few of his other myrrh scented roses and can report with a degree of certainty that the fragrance mix varies considerably. For example, I really like TAMORA's fragrance, which is a blend of fruit and myrrh. Others not-so-much. Frankly I won't buy a myrrh scented "Austin" until I get a chance to smell it first. Just my 2 cents worth. Best wishes, Patrick...See MoreHydrangea is flowering...just not growing
Comments (25)It is impossible to positively ID a Mac or any other Hydrangea from a photo for several reasons. 1. Photographs are not accurate representations of color. I am a professional photographer - MFA degree - and every camera, computer and editor sees color differently. Reds and blues are the most variable. 2. Hydrangea color is variable depending on soil chemistry. My pink Mac cuttings started in bagged soil turn blue when planted in my garden. The clone of an Ayesha (light blue) is pink only 25 feet from the mother plant. Of the Macs, I think Ayesha is the only one that can be positively identified because of the unique cupped blossoms. 3. All plant labels in a nursery are not absolute! People can remove a label to read it better and it may have not been put back in the correct pot. Have you ever found an incorrect tag in a plant? I have! Not all nursery or plant department people are trained in horticulture - or should they be. If you want expert advice or information - go to the 'expert desk' that most good nurseries have for help. It cost a lot of money to run a nursery and that is why the better nurseries charge more for their inventory. 4. There are several names for the same plants - Dr. Dirr tries to list most of them in his books. Every year more hydrangeas are being developed and without long term trials, it is not uncommon for a plant to revert to one of the original parents. This is not only for Hydrangeas but many plants. 5. Personally, I don't understand the compulsion to have to ID a plant name. I am a collector of more than 60 hydrangeas and probably 30 or more are not ID. Many came from a grower who was elderly and got the tags mixed up in her nursery. Some were lost when put in the garden but they are still wonderful and beautiful. If you want a positive ID, then DNA is the way to go....See MoreWhat to grow with Hydrangea in Massachusetts
Comments (9)What kind of Hydrangea? There are two species that will be fully hardy and bloom reliably in MA: Hydrangea arborescens like Annabelle or several pink ones like Mini Mauvette and Invincibelle Spirit II, and Hydrangea paniculata such as Limelight, Little Quickfire, Bobo, and Vanilla Sundae. If you want the blue flowered ones, Hydrangea macrophylla AKA big leaf Hydrangea, you most likely should give them winter insulation in order to get the best winter survival of bloom buds or you may not get much bloom in really cold years or when there is a late spring freeze. These are perhaps not a great choice for next to a main door since winter protection isn't pretty, nor are shrubs in May that have been killed back to the snow line. Each kind has different needs as far as moisture and light, so to get the best choice for your site, both for the hydeprangeas and their companions, we need to know how much sun and at what time of day and weather you can provide irrigation if it gets dry. A photo as well so we can see the space will help. Also, what do you mean by sea grass? One of the tall grasses with big ornamental seed plumes?...See MoreLA dreamin hedge
Comments (8)I planted one last summer. It grew quickly and has been my most prolific flowerer (maybe along with the Tiny Tuff Stuff). Started off pink with green centers and turned purple/blue, more pastel as they age, as you mentioned. It is about 3-feet wide and maybe 2-feet high, only after 1-year. It didn't seem to be affected by the winter, with several-day stretched of 0-degrees, while other mac's had some die-back. I'd probably get another if I had a space! Here is a pic from June when the flowers were still pink. It has grown quite a bit, but I don't have a more recent picture: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9aNByydhpKqMXZwcA...See MoreKayla
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