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LA dreamin hedge

5 years ago

I’m going to plant a small hedge of LA dreamin and wondering if anyone who has can advise on how far go space them? Do they grow quickly? Or should I plant a little closer to have a fuller look sooner? tag says fully grown size is 3x3, so I’m thinking planting around 2.5 ft apart?

also, I’m assuming the flowers get the softer pastel colors as the flower ages? Or from full sun?

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NHBabs z4b-5a NH

5 years ago

Big leafed hydrangeas like LA Dreamin won't be happy in full sun, so give them morning sun and afternoon shade. 2'-2.5' sounds like good spacing to me, but IME many shrubs may get a bit larger than the tag size. I don't have any specific experience with this particular cultivar, so hopefully someone who has will address this.

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hyed
5 years ago
LA/Mathilda Gutges, to many ifs for a hedge needs winter protection, never gets taller than 20” depending on soil... I get Blue and more Blue never seen Pink... the one on the left is 15yrs old/ right 3ys be between a new BOBO...Just Saying
Jaime 7a NY thanked hyed
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Jaime 7a NY
Original Author
5 years ago
Hyed, I’m shocked they are so small!
Jon
5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago
I planted one last summer. It grew quickly and has been my most prolific flowerer (maybe along with the Tiny Tuff Stuff). Started off pink with green centers and turned purple/blue, more pastel as they age, as you mentioned. It is about 3-feet wide and maybe 2-feet high, only after 1-year. It didn't seem to be affected by the winter, with several-day stretched of 0-degrees, while other mac's had some die-back. I'd probably get another if I had a space!

Here is a pic from June when the flowers were still pink. It has grown quite a bit, but I don't have a more recent picture:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/9aNByydhpKqMXZwcA
gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
5 years ago
Just an FYI, but 'Mathilda Gutges' is NOT the same plant as 'Lindsey Ann', tradename LA Dreamin. Both are very compact growers but LA Dreamin is smaller (~30-36") and is a reblooming or new wood flowering type of mac. MG gets 4-5' tall (and as wide) but is a strictly old wood bloomer so will require winter protection in colder zones. Both have an ability to develop some multicolored blossoms depending on soil pH.
hyed
5 years ago
This topic has been talked about before[https://www.houzz.com/discussions/uh-oh-dirr-claims-that-la-dreamin-is-mathilda-gutges-dsvw-vd~3892085[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/uh-oh-dirr-claims-that-la-dreamin-is-mathilda-gutges-dsvw-vd~3892085)
gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
5 years ago
Well, one is a repeat/new wood bloomer and the other is not so how they could be the same plant is a bit mystifying. And they do not give patents to new or renamed versions of existing plants so that just adds to the mix.
Jaime 7a NY
Original Author
5 years ago
Beautiful Jon!

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