you are welcome.. the trick is in the latin name ... Pinus clausa .. is a species of pine.. all pine species have huge potential .... easy to google just that part ... to see link ... as you can see.. the babes in the pic here.. has a habit that is substantially dwarf.. comparing such .... and that is why we get excited about them ... frankly .. psst.. dont tell the rest.. i cant tell one pine from another.. but i can surely see the difference ... if it had been a 'named cultivar' .... such as P. clausa 'ritmatt' .. the quote part of the name.. would be your first clue.. its somehow different that the species ... and selected for its uniqueness ... ken Here is a link that might be useful: link

Linda, I don't know that area well enough to know what's there but I'm sure others on this forum do. However, I would suggest you redo the posting on the regular Florida Forum Discussion page because a lot more people regularly visit there. I'm sure you'll get responses on that page. Kate

What a beautiful family!! Loved all the pictures - the park looks wonderful. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for the invite, Carol, but I will pass this time. I sure will try next year to meet up with some kt'ers, though!