Talinum species?
Lynda Waldrep
8 years ago
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Comments (4)If you have access to journals it would be worth looking for some of the articles written by Wolf. For example The Status of Talinum in Alabama W. Wolf American Midland Naturalist Vol. 22, No. 2 (Sep., 1939), pp. 315-332 With regard to the stigma Wolf says: "The Stigma: This structure deserves special discussion in connection with all three Appalachian species. It also serves as an indicator of degree of affinity. Among the three species T. mengesii is the one that exhibits a fair degree of constancy in the form of stigma, which is rather consistent with the character of a supposedly extracted species. Here, the stigma is either actually capitate, or at least so in appearance; in the latter instance the short lobes are erect in anthesis, but usually slightly gaping." This suggests that the stigma can have lobes provided they are erect. The question is can they be as long as you show in your illustration? Interestingly, Wolf discusses at length the possible relationship between T. teretifolium and T. mengesii (he thought T. mengesii decended from T. teretifolium). The description for Phemeranthus teretifolius in FNA states: "Phemeranthus teretifolius is an allopolyploid derived from P. parviflorus and P. mengesii, both of which it evidently outcompetes within its southern Appalachian range (M. E. B. Carter and W. H. Murdy 1985; W. H. Murdy and M. E. B. Carter 1985, 2001)."...See MoreCactus and Succulents: Winter temperature minimums
Comments (8)That is a great example of microclimates JoJo! The time spent at the minimum temperature (minutes, hours, days) plays a big role in what temperatures a plant can survive. So does the amount of water in the plant, and in the soil. Dry plants are much more tolerant of cold compared to wet plants. Plants in the ground can survive colder temperatures than plants in pots. I have found most of my plants can tolerate much lower temperatures than typically listed. These lows are brief, just a few hours at most, and it's at least 20 degrees warmer during the day. So plants that are supposed to not go below the mid-thirties F can tolerate minimum temperatures in the high twenties. Agave ferdinand-regis is listed at both +5, and -12 in the list above. The difference between a minimum average temperature, absolute minimum temperature, and Fahrenheit and Celsius scales is often confused. Minimum temperature listings should be regarded with great suspicion, even when coming from a more or less credible source like Desert-Tropicals. It is better to research the plants natural environmental conditions. I would not give much credence to this, or any other so called 'minimum temperature' list. There are too many variables for these to be accurate to any degree. ;) Brad...See MoreWinter fate of Talinum this late in zone 8?
Comments (6)I'm not as far north as you, however, the roots of my talinums have always survived the winters in San Antonio, but to be sure I'd bring that little pot inside until you find that it will reliably self seed as mine does. I have three forms, the old fashioned green, the lime green 'Limon', and a taller variety with bigger flowers that came in with a plant I bought. I love them all. Where else can you find such an easy to grow plant with few demands in such a great foliage color, unless it would be "Chocolate plant". You will likely get some negative comments about how they will come up everywhere. And they will if you don't use a lot of mulch as I do, but if they are not in a welcome spot they are easy to pull when young. When older you have to dig up the fleshy roots; they they come up easily with one plunge of a digging fork.. Anyway they don't grow to be large plants so they've never been a problem. Hopefully you'll get some replies from your area....See MoreTalinum species?
Comments (9)Rescue as a dam was being built to flood the entire area. Many wonderful plants gone now. Had permission from the water authority for years. Lots of Trilliums, Bloodroot, Arisaemas, etc. Strangely, not many ferns. We only found this one in one place. The others were over many ac., again, under water now. It does look like P. calycinus. I will print out the description from Illinois site and go outside tomorrow to see if it all matches. Thanks all....See MoreCampanula UK Z8
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