You're welcome! It's not odd that cooler zones will report more fragrance from many than warmer areas. Those in the cooler places are probably smelling them when the oils and alcohols are most volatile and smell the most. We in the warmer areas often miss out because they evaporate faster as the heat increases. Also, as aridity increases, the scents burn out faster. The various components of each rose's fragrance evaporate at different rates, so one may smell very Damask at first, quickly morphing into orris or citrus, finishing a completely different scent before losing any detectable trace for the day. Any user can access the Advanced Search, but Premium Membership permits you to specify multiple traits and types, where basic membership only provides Advanced Search using one criteria. Kim

hi, tandaina, It is confusing, but horticultural zone classifications refer to the low temperatures an area has. In my zone 8b in a mild coastal area, lows are usually not more than about 15 degrees. The teas I grow can handle the cold generally, but the kicker is that summertime heat levels are not reflected within that 8b definition. What I've found is that to do well teas need more heat than I have in most of my yard. Summers rarely reach much above 75 degrees. You can create a warm microclimate such as what Jackie is talking about and that helps a lot. Also I've found that with some of the teas that I grow, that even when they bloom, the scent doesn't develop very well. I don't grow very many Austins so have no real opinion of them. Heritage does beautifully for me, though, and I love it. Mostly I've come to love the once bloomers and the polyanthas/multiflora types, so that is what I primarily grow. I do grow several teas and baby them quite a bit, but where I am, I don't think they'll ever attain the height, the floriferousness, the scent that they did in Alabama or in Dallas. That's okay, I couldn't grow a gallica well in Texas. I don't know how much help that is, but I do wish you good luck with your garden! Gean

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John, I just dumped topsoil/compost mix on top of the baked hard pan subsoil fill I had covered with newspaper. Basically, what I described in the "Second Tea Garden" report except the second time I used cardboard under the soil compost. I never really prepared the ground. You really could not dig in the existing base. My second Tea garden report, I added humic acid and my husband broadforked around each plant hole. That is the garden with the wood fence backdrop. That area got a little prep then and is cooler, not being up against the stucco. I think this lasagna method helped because the "soil" on the property was barren and hopeless. I did add irrigation. I appreciate the photo comment because one does not want to be boring, but I also like to see how things progress for good or bad. It could help others like others have helped me.