Eurgh... First time trying to post images to houzz. I guess they don't accept html, huh? Strangely enough the links still work. Is there a way to insert images without uploading to houzz? I'm not sure I feel comfortable uploading images to this site.

Guess I'll have to do that from now on. I see no way to edit my original post either. Heh! Today was a learning process for sure.

Joe,

There should be an edit and a delete box just about your post. Make sure you are signed in and then you can press the edit (pencil) box and change your post.

I see those above my comments but my original post has nothing. It shows me as logged in so I don't know. :\ I even did a 'find' in case I just wasn't noticing it, and it's only showing the 'edit' in the comments.

Other people have asked and the response is to e-mail support so I'll do that.

Wow, I didn't expect it to try to open any further than it did yesterday.

Well, Joe, I'm looking at your flower and wondering if it might not be a cross. As you correctly point out, the stigma is spotted and I just went back through all my pictures of papilios and not a single one has anything but a white stigma. Also ,looking at your picture your stripes appear to go out to the ends of the petals for the most part and also the color is more red. (that might just be your camera). Now, who would have given you papilio that you could grow from seed. It would have to have been someone who had two different clones or had a Doran strain and was able to get seeds but they would have been so excited I should think it would have been all over the forum unless someone from somewhere else gave you some seeds.

Back about 3 to 4 years I made a cross of papilio Exotic Star which gave me about 20 seeds about half of them I am still have growing today but I don't think I would have given anyone any of these as they were my first great success. So, think back who gave you seeds. Houstonpat had loads of papilios, maybe he gave you seeds? Regardless, in my opinion from what I can see of your flower I would say it's a pap cross, but of what I don't know.

I wait to hear what others have to say about this. Also, as I think back It may have been Houstonpat who had some papilios (Kristi too) that bloomed down in the scape.

As far as using that pollen, I can't say whether or not I would, probably not as I have regular pap pollen but I suppose in a pinch I might, the choice is yours and keep in mind that it just might be a cross, not that that would really matter one way or the other. Hope I haven't just confused the issue more.....☺

Donna

A friend reminded me that I wrote down the username of people who sent me seeds on the markers so that I know who to reach when it blooms one day. I had to do some digging around the greenhouse to find the marker that had slipped out. 'crazyorchids' was the person that sent the seeds to me. I couldn't find any of the e-mails (strangely) but I did find the thread where the seeds were being given away. I can't wait for next year. I'd love to see how it'd appear normally with several flowers at the top. If those freckles on the stigma return, I'd have to call it 'Freckled Papilio' or something. hehe.

No, I understand. I saved the pollen and depending on what opens at certain times, I'll probably use it on a flower or two to see what happens.