Non-native conifers I have been seeing around
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Why do people get mad about non-native trees growing in the wild?
Comments (16)For my part, I'm just happy to see a rather nuanced discussion unfolding here. I see I'm not alone in being frustrated with some of the unintended consequences of the "natives only" movement, even though to a large extent, I'm a part of that movement, or at least a supporter of its main tenets. I think it really comes down to the fact that there are a few really bad actors, and then a whole bunch of stuff somewhere in the middle. I'm a big fan of Norway spruce-obviously not a native tree-and I know of some woods which are mostly native, but have a few big , old monsters of this species mixed in. In my view, absolutely not a problem, in any way. But those same woods are truly being "choked" by common buckthorn. That will be their demise, as that plant really does have the ability to crowd everything else out. It just depends on the situation, but to not realize there is a problem with non-native, invasive plant species proliferating in the environment indicates that you, OP, just haven't yet seen the light. Since you're interested enough in the topic to bring it up, I suspect you will in time come to see the havoc. A part of it really depends on your managing to fall in love with the native plant communities which have not yet been destroyed. Then once you cross that threshold, I think it will become clear what something like Callery pear, garlic mustard, or common buckthorn is doing to the landscape. +oM...See MoreNative Trees vs. Non-Native Trees
Comments (75)Greenthumbz, those are gorgeous pics! I've heard that there are a couple of trees that are not native to North America but are used by significant numbers of native insects. 1) Malus/Crabapples - native, hybrid, or exotic, Douglas Tallamy's book stated that the leaf chemistry is so similar that North american insects will use all species. This certainly bears true in my experience. I've got lots of crabs, a few specimens and a crazy wild thicket full of them in back,and they are bird magnets, not just for the fruits in the fall but for the nectar and insects in spring and summer. 2) Picea abies/Norway spruce - don't have any personal experience, but was told this by an ornithology student at Cornell who was doing a study on the subject...See MoreWhat conifers are native to the UK? Naturalized?
Comments (10)Yep; natives: Pinus sylvestris (currently native in Scotland only; extinct and reintroduced in England, Wales) Juniperus communis Taxus baccata Naturalised; note the predominance of western North American species (similar climate, so well-adapted), with Europe supplying most of the rest: Abies alba (local) Abies cephalonica (rare) Abies grandis (frequent) Abies nordmanniana (rare) Abies procera (frequent) Araucaria araucana (local; the only South American conifer naturalised here) Chamaecyparis lawsoniana (frequent) Cupressus macrocarpa (rare) Larix decidua (frequent) Larix kaempferi (frequent; the only Asian conifer naturalised here) Picea abies (rare) Picea mariana (rare) Picea orientalis (rare) Picea sitchensis (abundant) Pinus contorta (abundant) Pinus nigra (rare) Pinus pinaster (rare) Pinus radiata (rare) Pseudotsuga menziesii (abundant) Sequoia sempervirens (rare) Thuja plicata (abundant) Tsuga heterophylla (abundant) There's a few other species where regeneration has been recorded. Resin...See MoreBeginning to replace non-natives
Comments (17)I read through this post laughing about the 'disposal' problems you were facing. When we moved into our home the previous owners had spent over $5K on landscaping, mostly croatans, arecas, and some others which died. In the first week I ripped out probably $3K of it (labor was included in the $5K receipt I found in a folder). I made a pile about 7 feet tall of ficus, which looked like a Home Depot delivery truck had spilled, for the garbage men. I watched the pile dwindle (since I didn't realize trash pick-up was 4 days away) as neighbors plucked them off the street side. I now wonder how many PVC irrigation pipes have been chewed up from my 'recycling', hahaha. Even worse, after reading the last post, I read about your Green Is. Ficus you pulled out. YIKES! Was I in a state of daze as I walked through the nursery and okayed the delivery of (12) 3-gall. pots of this stuff!? It's now planted up our walkway with intentions on keeping it only 12" tall. Did I goof? I can only imagine what the Cocoplum was saying to the Ficus on the ride over together......See Morewisconsitom
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