Julia, what is your daylily in the photo. Trying to delete with a mac. Well that didn't work Try one more time That works. I used the houze photo button to load pic from my computer. The photo now shows before posting (did not before) theirs a little x in corner. Click x picture goes away before posting. Use can use the right side of houzz photo to upload from computer without uploading photos to houzz.

I got an email in response to my nasty letter of complaint about comments and photos not posting or disappearing. This was from the customer support department of Houzz, and written by a person as a followup to the canned reply that comes immediately. It basically contained that tired and worthless advice about having up to date, compatible software, blah, blah, blah. They suggested using Chrome. I wrote back saying their stale advice didn't work for anyone, they were losing forum members right and left, and they needed a new IT department. How can they not have received these same complaints many times already? I don't think they even have an IT department. Maybe they are going bankrupt. Wouldn't be surprised. Diane

Mcarroll16 - I am over here laughing because I think what you have in mind may just be our current layout (attached). Maybe we are crazy to want to change it, but we really wanted to open the hallway up so we aren’t constantly walking through the dining room to get to the kitchen. And I’m doing that, we lose our big pantry, so that’s why we added the storage in the butler’s pantry. We were also worried that lengthening the kitchen without adding a door half way through would make it feel way, way too long. I can definitely see why the original layout makes more sense though; the lost space is indeed driving me crazy. What if we were to make the lower vat cabinet extra deep? Like 36 inches? We could have a the upper wall at 24 so the top and counter are normal but do reinforced pull outs for all the liquor down below? I’m willing to sacrifice the other space by the exhaust but really want to do something useful with the part behind the bar.

Riot Act--it's labeled. Perhaps the post was just too long and was rejected for that reason. I should have remembered to add incrementally. It was strange that I could see the added post, but it wasn't visible if I loaded again your post. Censorship mechanisms can do strange things. On Facebook, I had $tolen Treasure, and I immediately got a message that the content was not permitted.