I would suggest you ask about Eden in the roses forum. There are a couple of NC gardeners that grow Eden. It's a very popular rose.

Here is my Eden, which I got from RU about 6-7 years ago, growing around a pillar--the biggest one I could find, but it is barely big enough. But then I had to trim Eden back last year in order to replace the crumbling pillar. The spring bloom that followed looked pretty good--but since then it has been sulking--I'm not sure it liked that pruning. Not that it ever had great re-bloom, but certainly better than this. I hope by next year it fully recovers from the forced pruning because it is one of my favorite blooms also. Closer shot of the beautiful blooms (but a bit dark). Not the most floriferous bloomer in the garden, but you will forgive her whenever she does bloom! Kate

I have this spectacular rose: very healthy in my no spray garden, very little die back and beautiful spring display. It’s a lovely gift you have given us @regtomerlin. Will call her Margaret Mae instead of PiP henceforth.

Lisa - your comment made me laugh! Yes, all that "seeing him nude" and "stripping him naked" did sound very naughty - hahaha! No, our winters are too mild really (we're still getting up to 20 C (68F) in the daytime sometimes and it only goes down to around 8 - 10 C (46 - 50F) at night so to be honest, none of the roses were going dormant. They were still setting buds. But with Spring coming in Sep just around the corner, we sort of have to force them into dormancy ;-) A few of the roses do drop some leaves - but mostly, you have to strip them all off by hand. (You can see from the 2nd photo above - that's what Pierre looked like last week, still completely covered - so all of that had to be removed yesterday! The training was actually a happy accident due to my newbie anxiety - haha! I didn't realise that climbers have canes that remain lax and can be tied up later - the rose people here in Perth told me they just let the new shoots grow wild and then tie them all in properly after pruning, when they can see better. But I thought if I didn't train them as they grew, they would "solidify" into the wrong shape! So I was there wrestling with Pierre all through the growing season, tying & retying him to the fence as he grew. I have a LOT of thorn pricks & scratches to show for it - haha! But it did mean that when it came to pruning yesterday, the guy who was helping me said that I'd done a good enough job with the training so we didn't need to re-tie any of the canes at all. :-) Funnily enough, I've discovered that I really enjoy training things (probably a masochistic tendency - hah!) and I'm now looking for more climbers to grow in my garden! Sadly, not roses as I'm out of sunny walls - but I'm looking at clematis and any other climbers I can find. Oh, and I've just planted lots of sweet pea seedlings. It's my first time growing them - I've never seen them in "real life" - so I'm excited! HY